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To: don-o

I can’t believe people are still defending these idiot bikers. The autopsies are irrelevant. Of course some bikers were shot by cops. They were armed, committing felonies, and there were a lot of them! Here’s a list what the D.A. CAN PROVE as shown in the intent of seizure declaration:

On May 17, several members of the Cossacks and their support groups, the Bogatyrs and Scimitars, arrived an hour or more before the scheduled 1 p.m. meeting. They took over the patio area, which had been reserved for the COC&I meeting.

According to MANY SIGNED AFFIDAVITS FROM WITNESSES, they also had members inside the restaurant and along the perimeter of the parking lot, and members appeared to be posted as sentries.

VIDEOS from Twin Peaks and Don Carlos show several Cossacks reach under their vests and appear to adjust their weapons or check their weapons. They had handguns and knives as they walked around the patio, and officers said they also could see Bandidos, Machateros and Caballeros members standing along the perimeter of the parking lot. [Texas IS NOT an open-carry state, and this is NOT a shooting range - it’s a restaurant open to the general public. They are committing armed felonies at this point.]

According to MANY SIGNED AFFIDAVITS FROM WITNESSES another group of Bandidos arrived in the Twin Peaks parking lot, several Cossacks, Bogatyrs and Scimitars climbed over the patio railing and went toward the Bandidos. Several of the Cossacks pulled their weapons, including handguns, as they stood on the patio and exited the patio. [Texas IS NOT an open-carry state, and this is NOT a shooting range - it’s a restaurant open to the general public. They are committing armed felonies here also.]

MANY SIGNED AFFIDAVITS FROM WITNESSES also state a Bandido nearly struck a Cossack with his motorcycle in the parking lot. Members of both groups converged. Several Bandidos and Cossacks pulled out guns and knives, and shot and stabbed each other.

Of the 239 people who were detained after the shootout, more than 488 weapons - some illegal - were recovered from the crime scene, including 151 firearms.

This bears repeating: Of the 239 people who were detained after the shootout, more than 488 weapons - some illegal - were recovered from the crime scene, including 151 firearms.

Now, go ahead and try to tell me how these “law abiding citizens” were just there to have a friendly get-together, and the police had no cause for alarm. And, please don’t try to sell the story that this evidence is just all made up by the media and police. This comes straight out of the DA’s seizure filing, and he is not about to blow the whole case by citing evidence here that he cannot absolutely show.

Here’s a question for you: If a group of two hundred Black Panthers walked on to the premises of your local predominantly white restaurant while you were having lunch there with your family, took up strategic positions in the restaurant and parking lot, then pulled guns and started waving them around and firing them, what would you expect the police to do? Because according to the evidence so far, the police were legally justified in their actions at Twin Peaks.


29 posted on 08/15/2015 7:40:42 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve

“...VIDEOS from Twin Peaks and Don Carlos show several Cossacks reach under their vests and appear to adjust their weapons or check their weapons. They had handguns and knives as they walked around the patio, and officers said...
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Do YOU have links to the “VIDEOS from Twin Peaks and Don Carlos” to which you make reference? Of course you don’t because the authorities who conducted this BATF provocation operation gone bad are not releasing them to the public...they’re just releasing THEIR spin on the videos.

And the LAST TWO WORDS of the extract I made in this post (”officers said”) are reflective of all the “information” you are allowing yourself to rely upon. I’d be careful to take the selective release of “information” with a full deer lick of salt before arriving at any settled conclusion.


36 posted on 08/15/2015 8:18:20 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: eastexsteve; don-o; All
Here’s a question for you: If a group of two hundred Black Panthers walked on to the premises of your local predominantly white restaurant while you were having lunch there with your family, took up strategic positions in the restaurant and parking lot, then pulled guns and started waving them around and firing them, what would you expect the police to do?

I would expect the police to leave alone the folks there having lunch with their families, and to focus their arrest and kill efforts on the Black Panthers.

I have a question for you. If only one third of the so-called "criminal gang members" arrested and held on million-dollar bail, not to mention I think less than half of the dead, had prior arrest records (let alone actual criminal convictions), does that mean the cops are REALLY stupid and inept, or does it mean that the "criminal gang members" AKA "bikers" are really intelligent and wily?

It has to be one of the two -- remember these hardened killer "criminal gang bikers" were wearing patches and signs proudly proclaiming their status as bikers, according to the MSM/LEO meme. HOW IS IT that even with patches on their backs broadcasting their criminal intent, that up until May 17, a full TWO THIRDS of these criminals had managed to evade any kind of arrest?

Were the cops so lame that they couldn't catch them in the act over the years they've been in Texas, even when said "criminals" wore neon signs identifying themselves?

Or did the cops arrest and punish a bunch of innocent PATRIOTS exercising their right to free-association?

53 posted on 08/15/2015 12:37:48 PM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is pretend. You can only vote "for.")
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To: eastexsteve

Release the videos now.


73 posted on 08/16/2015 4:06:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: eastexsteve

Headshake.

I pity you.


83 posted on 08/17/2015 7:15:45 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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