State Dept: Looks like someone in Hillary’s inner circle stripped classifications from e-mails

Canada Free Press ^ | 08/13/15 | Dan Calabrese

[Sean_Anthony]

That's a felony.

Hillary’s people have for some time now been riding this classic Clinton line with respect to classified information moving through her completely insecure homebrew e-mail server. She didn’t send or receive any e-mails that were marked classified at the time.

I’m having a flashback: It depends what the meaning of the word is is. If is means isn’t now and never was, then . . .

But remember, that’s Bill. He’s the guy who can steal your clothes and still sell you a cleaning ticket. Hillary is nowhere near as good at lying, which is funny because she doesn’t seem capable of making a truthful statement about anything. So when they tell you none of the e-mails were “marked classified at the time,” your first thought (or at least mine) is this: Do they regularly send around e-mails containing sensitive information and only after the fact decide to mark them classified? I’m in no way an expert here but just from a common sense perspective, that strikes me as a strange way of dealing with highly sensitive information.

Then again, maybe they weren’t “marked classified at the time” because someone illegally removed the classification marking in order to give Hillary plausible deniability. That’s what a Fox News source within the State Department thinks:

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Weird how the evil demons at the IRS doing the evil deeds to the Tea Party were mostly female. Notice that most of the evil doers in this Clinton email scandal are also female.. Food for thought.

[Melinator]

Yes i know. Perhaps you are missing my point.

She was not storing them for safe keeping or later perusal, she received them and sent them along to someone else who should not have them.

She then tried to delete them but could not. That is why she was looking for a book on how to permanently delete emails.

When she wiped her server, she probably simply reformatted it. My bet is all her email is still there.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Bullcr*p. Classified info. is usually classified the minute it is born. The greatest national security threat is classified info. that’s NOT marked classified because it ends up forwarded and copied to anyone and everyone, including the Internet. That is WORSE than classified that is marked but mishandled!!!

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

I think she’s been reassured her emails are GONE forever, otherwise she NEVER would’ve turned her server over to the FBI, unless of course it’s all hands on deck to COVER-UP FOR HILLARY.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Oh yeah and the thumb drive her attorney had is ANOTHER crime. Is he cleared for Top Secret and had his codeword briefing for special access? Doubtful.

[Greysard]

If someone is hacking your email server it does not matter how long the email is there. It’s compromised no matter how long it was there. End of story.

Indeed. All modern SMTP agents can be configured to copy all email to other locations upon reception. Storing is not necessary; in fact, SMTP software does not store anything permanently anyway, it's done by IMAP like Cyrus, or in MS SQL databases on Exchange.

Creation of such a copy is a legitimate function that is often used for archiving. Here is just one example. An unsophisticated attacker wouldn't even need to hack the system - he'd only need to reconfigure it. A better prepared attacker would replace the SMTP executable with a hacked one; that hack would be invisible in the logs. It would be detectable with a Tripwire - but that requires a certain level of expertise to set up and maintain, as every update introduces a bunch of changes all over the place. I doubt that HRC had anything above and beyond a standard MS Windows Server with MS Exchange; that configuration can be hacked in a million ways, depending on what remote administration methods were enabled.

[The Sons of Liberty]

“Somebody” broke the law but it wasn’t Hillary! /s And every democrat will be saying that.

There's an abundance of her moronic followers who would be willing to go to jail to save her - Useful Idiots, but Hillary must explain her obstruction of justice.

I want to know why she was allowed to operate with her own server. Any individual maintaining her system could've accessed all the data, so unless they had the proper clearance and authorization, she is guilty of allowing uncleared individual(s) to access classified data.

[caww]

...”Classified info. is usually classified the minute it is born”....

Unless ‘someone’ drops the classified ball....

[fso301]

This is a lot bigger than Hillary and her IT guy.

Imagine how many emails there were between Whitehouse people, top Dem's and hillary@hillary.com, huma@hillary.com, yet no one seemed to raise a concern.

[Hiro Protaginast]

I understand that. I’m just saying she still committed a crime by having them on an unsecured server and another crime if she forwarded them to anyone

[BlueDragon]

A person in her position should reasonably have known they were top secret just by looking at them.

How can you say such awful things about illary?

Don't you understand she was just an underling erself, when she was acting Sec. of State?

[hold on... i'm getting a call on my secret earbud, one-way spy phone listening device...]

I mean, don't you know it was all a low level underling's fault? Uh, if there is any fault. There is no fault! How can you not see that?

illary does not recall anything like State Department related emails were supposed to restricted to being transmitted only through secure State Department email accounts and protocols. It was made clear to er from the beginning, but se forg --- does not recall.

[woops, hold on a sec. again, they are telling me ahem, my apologies, 'fraid I "misspoke"]

None of those emails (we don't know how many, and neither do you) that may have contained classified information, were known to contain classified information at the time SE first read them.

Do you really expect er to be responsible for, and keep track of all the 30,000 emails people sent er?

Juggling all that information, while doing extra work on the side (for America's working families) taking part in tangentially managing international business deals, like--- pertaining to sensitive materials, like--- uranium mined from within the United States to be shipped to overseas buyers (buyers who bought uranium mines located within the U.S., as it turns out, so it's all ok, the State Dept. did not object, which proves it's all ok).

See? the big red Reset Button actually worked, regardless of how unfair critics of er ERness unfairly criticize er!, while she was doing all sorts of good things, like assisting managing Huma's two jobs, and all that money coming into, and then going out of (being then re-distributed, don't you just love that word "re-distributed", it has a special ring) Clinton Foundation accounts, all while in er duties as Sec. of State being virtually bombarded, inundated on daily basis with State Department memorandum regarding international affairs crucial to the ability of the Democrat Party to help stand for, and "help" ..."America's working families".

[randita]

Notice that most of the evil doers in this Clinton email scandal are also female.

We don't know that yet.

[randita]

Well apparently they do or Hillary wouldn’t be using that as her defense...which she is.

She's parsing. Even if it's a fact that what she saw was not "marked" classified doesn't mean that it wasn't originally classified, then tampered with. She's just adding a degree of separation in there so she has deniability.

She needs to be asked how material that was classified at the point of origin ended up not being classified when it got to her. How is she going to explain that?

[tacticalogic]

If we presume that the secure computers don't have USB ports or other I/O that is suitable for exfiltration of information, then the criminal could smuggle a cell phone into the SCIF and capture the screen with a camera, or just retype relevant parts of the message into the phone. This would also remove classification markings, as they would not be copied. Naturally, phones and other such equipment is not allowed into a SCIF. But who is going to search high-flying officials of the department?

I think you could probably remove classification tags and markings by selectively copying content from a classified email and pasting it into an new, unclassified email.

[caww]

True....

Bottom line is everyone knows she broke the law and of the degree which would ordinarily mean prison.

What we’re going to see eventually is Hillary will begin to orchestrate her campaign around the groundwork to prevent her from going to jail.

[trebb]

Just more proof that she/they knew they were breaking the law and doing a pre-cover-up.

[Greysard]

I think you could probably remove classification tags and markings by selectively copying content from a classified email and pasting it into an new, unclassified email.

Not on the same computer, though. The person would have to bridge the air gap between classified and unclassified systems. That is not easy, and it had to be done intentionally, with use of unorthodox methods. You can copy and paste whatever you want on a secure computer, but the bits will stay there. FSOs and their IT staff spend a lot of time on making sure that unauthorized copying of data is as difficult as possible.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

This notion that the emails weren't classified at the time they were sent/received but BECAME CLASSIFIED LATER is a giant, massive, hugh and series CROCK OF BULLCR*P AND ASSUMES WE REGULAR FOLKS HAVE ZERO UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY. RARELY RARELY HARDLY EVER NEVER DOES INFO. START OUT UNCLASSIFIED AND BECOMES CLASSIFIED LATER.. ONLY THE REVERSE IS TRUE, IF ANYTHING.

[caww]

Well dear......that doesn’t change the fact she’s going to use it as part of her defense.....no matter how much you forget to turn off your caps and highlight keys.

[Yaelle]

Where is Craig Livingstone? Bet I’m not the first to mention him.

There WILL be a fall guy or gal; she wouldn’t be a Clinton if she didn’t throw someone under the bus, especially posthumously.