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The absolute worst advice we give to Americans struggling to pay rent
The Daily Dot ^ | July 22, 2015 | Hanna Brooks Olsen

Posted on 07/30/2015 1:38:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: RipSawyer

It’s tough living with a hoarder mentality sometimes.

Very wise words in your post.


41 posted on 07/30/2015 5:56:45 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: DH
supply and demand

Uncontrolled immigration of Democrats is increasing demand for all kinds of expensive things. Control the borders and rents will normalize as will most everything else.

42 posted on 07/30/2015 6:05:10 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obviously this was written by some overconfident 20something with no life experience.

The worst advice "we" give (especially) young people is that if they're living paychecktopaycheck that they can borrow their way out of it - that includes over-buying on houses, kinda like the people on the house-buying shows on cable TV, and it also includes the MYTH that buying any house prematurely is helpful. That's actually a terrible mistake, despite the fact that it's socially acceptable and in fact expected.

"Oh, you should see Susie and Johnny's new house!"

Anyone out there lurking, hear the voice of experience:

Get your uh... stuff paid off.

Make more money. If you have to do something else that's legal to make more money, call it personal growth. Work more hours, tend a bar someplace, whatever works for you.

Spend less.

Got it all paid off?

Good. Now save some money, a significant amount, because you're about to need it...

Now go buy an unpretentious starter house.

43 posted on 07/30/2015 6:10:11 AM PDT by OKSooner (Chamberlain at least loved his country, please don't insult his memory by comparing him to 0.)
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To: Gaffer
re: "Oxford commas". Well, at least she has her priorities straight. </s
44 posted on 07/30/2015 6:17:19 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: kjam22

My brother is a slum lord. He buys small one bedroom units. He gets past the bad renters by renting to old ladies on social security. He says they always pay their rent.


45 posted on 07/30/2015 6:31:02 AM PDT by sheana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, when you fools are paying $400,000+ for a 1200 sq ft 30 year old house I find it hard to show any sympathy.


46 posted on 07/30/2015 7:07:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: equaviator
I don't raise rents based on market conditions. Maybe I'm dumb for not doing so, but I don't. I live in SW Oklahoma City, about 4 miles from where the tornados went through Moore. Rental property was scarce for a while. Still a little scarce. There was an opportunity to gouge people if I had wanted too. But, I put the numbers in my model and try to make 10% on my investment. That's my business model. I don't try to take advantage of people. I treat them fairly and the way I would want to be treated. I treat them with respect like I would any business partner or business customer.

But that's me.

47 posted on 07/30/2015 7:12:41 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Gaffer

My fear is that very soon a landlord will be forced to give priority to renters with Section 8 vouchers.


48 posted on 07/30/2015 7:15:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sheana
Honestly.... I don't want to even go in those slum areas. I certainly don't want to own property there. To invest money there. I grade investment property by price and neighborhood. I could go over into the older part of Moore and pay 40k to 50k for a 1000 sqft house and probably make my 10%. But I don't even drive there at night, much less own anything there. I grade those areas as a D area. I try to own B or A property. I'd rather find a good deal in a more middle income neighborhood (a neighborhood that hasn't already gone to rental), so my property if taken care of appreciates in value and is rentable to higher income families who most often come to the deal with higher standards and principles.

Sometimes you misjudge the persons. But most of the time the model works.

49 posted on 07/30/2015 7:21:51 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: dfwgator

So far, a landlord has to agree (in writing) to comply with the requirements for a Section 8 tenant/rental. In practice, it is the landlord who initiates that arrangement.

They aren’t at the point of forced rentals like that, but that doesn’t say Obama wouldn’t try it if he has time before he is forced out of office in 15 months. They are already at the point of trying to force city councils to change zoning and licensing requirements to effect that kind of crap, but it hasn’t gotten down to the individual landlords - yet.


50 posted on 07/30/2015 7:23:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: dfwgator

Another reason not to own cheap / slum housing.


51 posted on 07/30/2015 7:24:03 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Gaffer

If Obama had his way, the government would take over ownership of all housing and assign people where they live. It is the ultimate goal, and we get closer and closer to it with each passing day.


52 posted on 07/30/2015 7:36:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

That’s probably true, but it isn’t any new concept. Communists have been doing that since they got their name.


53 posted on 07/30/2015 7:37:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The simplest solution, they will propose, is that people who are in financial turmoil “just move somewhere cheaper.” That is terrible advice. To address the cycle of poverty, we have to address increases in rent itself, not just where people choose to live.

Why let economics actually work, when we can CONTROL human nature, CONTROL economics, and CONTROL everyone's residence choices!!

(Hint to those who cannot handle Econ 101: Supply and demand... prices go up, demand goes down, prices go back down. If the rentals aren't renting at those rates, the owners will drop their prices. If the units ARE renting at those rates, then any third-party jackass who demands to insert themselves into the private agreement to control the prices that the parties have freely agreed to should be ignored and mocked and told to f*** off. They can only bring decay, a loss of freedom, and more government control.)

54 posted on 07/30/2015 7:41:17 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: DaveA37
Can’t afford to rent? Buy a house where you will have REAL expenses. The gubmint will give you the money. sarc.

I bought a double-wide in 1991. I figured the square footage my family with wife and two kids needed and went from there. It was paid for in ten years vs a 30 year house mortgage. It will last me my lifetime I'm in my late 50's now. Also you can't predict things. Five years into the payments I became disabled. But we still managed to get the house paid off whereas a 30 year note on a regular home we likely would have lost it. The payments were considerably cheaper than rent. Now I'm in a 1200 square ft home living by myself. All the room I need and more at this time in my life.

55 posted on 07/30/2015 9:27:55 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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