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To: Art in Idaho; flaglady47
We knew very well how Barack Obama would govern that was perfectly apparent to anyone willing to invest a couple of hours of research into the man's biography and associations: he would govern as a radical leftist. His values were clear, he was a certified and salaried Saul Alinsky facilitator, so dedicated to the cause was he. Barack Obama's values were knowable; his values were repugnant to the Constitution, to democracy, to capitalism.

It was easy to know how Barack Obama would govern because he was a committed ideologue. In my view his radical roots were underreported by the media who simply wanted to put the first black man in the Oval Office. But we could make out who Barack Obama was with surprisingly little research.

What kind of a man is Donald Trump? What is his ideology? What values does he hold dear besides the advancement of Donald Trump and his ego? These questions are unanswerable but the smart money says he will govern lurching from issue to issue coming down on an issue as it strikes his immediate fancy. In short, he will govern without reference to a coherent philosophy. It will be an ad hoc affair and the end result will be confusion or even chaos.

In our history we have had politicians who have fooled us. In fact we had two in a row, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon. But we have also been blessed with men who have held consistent to an enlightened view their entire lives such as Washington, Lincoln, Coolidge and Reagan after his conversion to conservatism. Each man upon leaving office could say, what you see is what you got.

There is a deplorable tendency in the electorate to whore after the next Messiah as though the answer to our problems are held on the hands of one man. Yes, it unquestionably requires a charismatic individual, either on the left or on the right, to seize the historical moment and bring the country along to his point of view. But after we establish to our satisfaction that the candidate is of good character (after all if a man has had three wives it is relevant when his finger will be but inches away from the red button) we must ask, what is his ideology, is he consistent in an ideology that is wholesome? Barack Obama was perfectly consistent in his ideology which is bringing the country to ruin. Yet at the time of his election, thanks partly to the media and partly to the gullibility of a yearning electorate, he was nearly universally regarded as the next coming. He has not governed as the Messiah he has rather governed as a Bolshevik straining at a rubber leash.

Thus are the wages of exalting personality over policy.


145 posted on 07/15/2015 11:18:52 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
What kind of a man is Donald Trump? What is his ideology? What values does he hold dear besides the advancement of Donald Trump and his ego? These questions are unanswerable but the smart money says he will govern lurching from issue to issue coming down on an issue as it strikes his immediate fancy. In short, he will govern without reference to a coherent philosophy. It will be an ad hoc affair and the end result will be confusion or even chaos.

Trump reminds me of the little I know about Teddy Roosevelt who ended up gravitating towards the left. Teddy and Donald both seem like the types who would govern to massage their egos first, to 'look good' and maybe not do what's best for the country, as you say 'an ad hoc affair and the end result will be confusion or even chaos.'

What a condition our country is in that maybe that's better than having a committed Marxist at the helm, again.

148 posted on 07/15/2015 11:56:24 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: nathanbedford

“What values does he hold dear besides the advancement of Donald Trump and his ego? These questions are unanswerable but the smart money says he will govern lurching from issue to issue coming down on an issue as it strikes his immediate fancy. In short, he will govern without reference to a coherent philosophy. It will be an ad hoc affair and the end result will be confusion or even chaos.”

Well, so far Trump has been “lurching” onto all of the right topics, hasn’t he, and has given his viewpoints that have so far thrilled most conservatives. So he’s done something right. As to knowing what’s really going on in any politician’s mind and heart, you’ll never really know. We make calculated guesses and hope we are right. If you are looking for perfection, you’ll be disappointed with many a politician. That’s why a seasoned and highly successful businessman looks really good to me now, especially his talent for making good deals, unlike Obama’s horrifying Iran deal.

I just hope as President The Donald can undo a lot of what Obama has done, and fast. Trump’s a doer. He’ll jump into his new job with both feet. And will surround himself with others that are doers, just like himself.


150 posted on 07/15/2015 12:10:34 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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