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To: DiogenesLamp; rlmorel

It seems that no one knows that the British issued two emancipation proclamations during the Revolutionary War.

Dunmore’s Proclamation in 1775. And the Philipsburg Proclamation in 1779.

Like the Union the British were fighting against an independence movement. They were fighting to force the American rebels to remain in the United Kingdom. And like the North the British Crown offered freedom for the slaves.

I don’t see how someone who argues that ending slavery justified the Union war against Confederate independence can at the same time argue in favor American independence from Britain. Had the Crown defeated the American rebels slavery would have ended 90 years earlier.

Apparently there is no consistent moral argument at work here; it’s an argument of expediency to justify an outcome of which they approve.

In the one case the moral imperative of ending slavery justifies a war against the rebels and the need to exterminate all traces of their culture 150 years later; in the other case it never even gets mentioned. Go figure. I guess slavery only became interesting to the North sometime after 1783.


99 posted on 07/11/2015 1:31:28 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: Pelham
I don’t see how someone who argues that ending slavery justified the Union war against Confederate independence can at the same time argue in favor American independence from Britain. Had the Crown defeated the American rebels slavery would have ended 90 years earlier.

Apparently there is no consistent moral argument at work here; it’s an argument of expediency to justify an outcome of which they approve.

Now you are going to make them mad. With facts like these, you puncture their moral superiority balloon. The claim that the Union fought the war to abolish slavery is the only fig leaf they have to justify what horrible bloodshed they caused.

In the one case the moral imperative of ending slavery justifies a war against the rebels and the need to exterminate all traces of their culture 150 years later; in the other case it never even gets mentioned. Go figure. I guess slavery only became interesting to the North sometime after 1783.

It only became significant to the Union in 1863. For two years into the war, they were going to let in continue, and indeed, did let it continue in their own states.

134 posted on 07/11/2015 5:25:35 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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