[DoodleDawg]

So do you agree or disagree with Lincoln here? Do people have the right to self government or not?

Lincoln was speaking of the right to rebellion. You have the right to try. You don't have a right to win.

This is the main point, a theme taken directly from the Declaration of Independence. The part about the legislatures adding this to their constitutions is something he is strongly recommending (because he believes, as you see, that this right will be abused). Their is no law anywhere saying that such is a requirement to leave.

Rawle is not suggesting anything. He is stating legal fact as he sees it.

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

Lincoln was speaking of the right to rebellion.

The quote was actually in reference to Texas' secession from Mexico.

Rawle is not suggesting anything. He is stating legal fact as he sees it.

To be truly legal fact, there has to be a law indicating such.