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But you are free to continue to worship your god, Lincoln. Clearly, the history books have been written and rewritten to deify the tyrant.

And you are free to believe any tale that strikes your fancy. One thing I've noticed is that facts and figures mean nothing to any of you.

I've read "Lincoln and Chief Justice Taney: Slavery, Secession, and the President's War Powers" by James F. Simon and "Without Fear or Favor: A Biography of Chief Justice Roger Brooke Taney" by Walker Lewis and neither biographer even mentions a plot to arrest the Chief Justice. I had never even heard of the accusation until I wandered into the Civil War threads here. So you would have us believe that not one, but two biographers deliberately left such an important part of Taney's history out of their books? OK.

Walker Lewis and neither biographer even mentions a plot to arrest the Chief Justice. I had never even heard of the accusation until I wandered into the Civil War threads here. So you would have us believe that not one, but two biographers deliberately left such an important part of Taney's history out of their books?

I had not heard of it either (history is written by the winner) until 20 years ago when I heard the Ft McHenry Park Historian discuss famous prisoners and "almost prisoners." Since that time, I have heard several US Park/Battlefield historians discuss it as well.

But, having said that, you read a book one time that did not mention it, so I suppose you think that settles it.

On the suspension of habeus corpus, you cited the Constitution, but what you failed to cite was the Constitutional authority for Lincoln to suspend it. Chief Justice Taney ruled that Lincoln was ex-Constitutional in his arrest and imprisonment of Maryland legislator John Merryman, which is why Lincoln arranged for Taney's arrest. In 1866, the Supreme Court of the US ruled (again) that only Congress can suspend habeus corpus.

What you Lincoln worshippers fail to realize is that unless you worship Obama too, your inconsistencies are writ large. Obama's lawlessness is best paralleled by Lincoln's lawlessness.

If you are truly a conservative (which is very much in doubt), you would be first in line to denounce it if Obama imprisoned an elected official of a State, without charge and without trial.

If Texas were to take over border duties, and expel federal agents from their border with Mexico, and Obama sent federal troops to fire on said Texas officials, I hope a true conservative would not only be outraged, but defend the sovereign State of Texas. But, we know Federal sycophants who view the 19th century through the Progressive glasses of the John-Dewey-approved history books will never see how foolish they look calling themselves "conservative."