Two members of the Free republic Taliban Army discussing their totalitarian politics in public. How nice.
Posted on 07/11/2015 9:54:21 AM PDT by golux
Deovindickia!
DioRealDeal ;’)
As wacko as the Left's narrative of the Civil War is, the Right's is just as crazy. Between the Communist co-option of the Union and the identification of the Confederacy with Nazi Germany (and the subsequent adoption of the Confederacy as the Conservative Republicans of their day) the actual history behind the Civil War is being banished to an Orwellian memory hole.
The Slave Power didn't believe in states' rights. They just grabbed that slogan once their conspiracy against the Free States failed and a non-extentionist was elected President. What a reason to leave the Union and start a war!
I forgot to mention that Baldwin is one of those loathsome “palaeos.”
Paleo-loon?
I think it is reasonable to point out that the CSA had a key ideological issue in common with the Nazis. That is the idea that there is a Master Race and slave races.
While the two systems were very different, it’s not difficult to imagine the CSA, had it won, developing in a direction similar to that the Nazis later followed. Once you really believe in a Master Race ideology, a lot follows logically.
How about each and every one of the individual rights guaranteed by the United States Constitution?
You can start with an easy one - the right to participate in the selection of the President of the United States. Not true at all. Look around you. We work, while Washington D.C. collects the fruits of our labor. The Civil war didn't abolish slavery, it just modified the demographics of it.
We are all slaves now. Sure the chains are more gilded, but do not mistake the fact that you have masters.
I suspect you're having trouble appreciating the reality of slavery, what it really meant to be owned by another human being. If you get to Heaven someday and meet some people who really were slaves, then you can swap stories with them about your life in chains. "And, they made me fill out a 1040 - every year!"
It's hard to imagine anyone saying the things you're saying. You've obviously had it too easy.
I don’t know how Lenin felt about slavery, but it’s going to be tough getting people to support reinstating slavery here. It’s over!
lol - bttt
Troll much, do you?
You apparently are the only Freeper foolish enough to believe or disingenuous enough to claim that anyone is advocating a return of slavery. But I suppose that pretending that others do is supposed to justify your own hostility to Southerners.
Well, I know that the vast majority of Southerners agree with me about slavery. I know that the vast majority of Southerners are opposed to slavery and support the USA. I know that the vast majority of Southerners are grateful that Lincoln prevented a few Southerners from destroying their country and depriving their neighbors of their rights as United States citizens. Maybe you just don't appreciate how lucky you are to be an American.
Great post. Thanks.
Oh well then, that makes it ok. /sarc
No, that makes it accurate. Accuracy being something that you and Chuck don't seem to have any interest in.
Myths are written by the losers.
But, having said that, you read a book one time that did not mention it, so I suppose you think that settles it.
Two books by men who spent considerable time researching Chief Justice Taney and who wrote detailed accounts of his life and career and neither of which placed any credibility to your charge. You troll a couple of Reb websites and suddenly you're the expert.
On the suspension of habeus corpus, you cited the Constitution, but what you failed to cite was the Constitutional authority for Lincoln to suspend it.
Article I, Section 9 as I said. That clause does not say who had the authority to suspend it, and jurists as recent as William Rehnquist and Sandra Day O'Conner have said that whether or not the president can suspend habeas corpus has never definitively been decided.
Chief Justice Taney ruled that Lincoln was ex-Constitutional in his arrest and imprisonment of Maryland legislator John Merryman...
He was not a member of the legislature. Just the militia.
...which is why Lincoln arranged for Taney's arrest.
And yet Taney was never arrested.
In 1866, the Supreme Court of the US ruled (again) that only Congress can suspend habeus corpus.
Really? What case?
What you Lincoln worshippers fail to realize is that unless you worship Obama too, your inconsistencies are writ large. Obama's lawlessness is best paralleled by Lincoln's lawlessness.
And it's truly sad that you Lincoln haters can't see just how idiotic that statement is.
If you are truly a conservative (which is very much in doubt), you would be first in line to denounce it if Obama imprisoned an elected official of a State, without charge and without trial.
Now you're just being silly.
While the two systems were very different, it’s not difficult to imagine the CSA, had it won, developing in a direction similar to that the Nazis later followed. Once you really believe in a Master Race ideology, a lot follows logically.
I think the real pull to the Axis would have been Latin Fascism and Japanese bushido.
But at any rate, the point of my posts is the utter hypocrisy of painting the Confederacy as a great defender of "states' rights" when it was born out of numerous violations of the rights of free states by the Slave Power. To pick the Confederate battle flag (actually the Confederate naval jack) as a symbol of "resistance to federal tyranny" nicely dovetails with the Left's narrative that the primary "right" conservatives want is to own and enslave Black people.
And btw . . . the so-called "League of the South" supports the Communist Celtic "national liberation movements" in the name of "Celtic solidarity." This means they excuse and defend the socialism and radical abortionist/homosexualist doctrines of those movements. Last year they adamantly supported the Scottish National Party and Scottish "independence" despite the fact that the SNP intended to make "independent" Scotland the first country on earth that enshrined "gay rights" in its fundamental law. I detest Black Americans' alliance with the Left, but how in the world can conservatives remain silent at such duplicitous hypocrisy by "palaeos" and neo-Confederates?
Two members of the Free republic Taliban Army discussing their totalitarian politics in public. How nice.
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