[Crystal Palace East]

Of course he used the same form.

1st, such forms are often required to be used statewide or district wide to provide all the elements required by the law. That way, the courts do not have to spend hours debating the legality of each word in an arrest form.

You have seen the same all the time. When was the last time you saw a lease, hospital admission release for treatment and waiver, a rent-a-car contract, a real estate listing, contract or closing, or a traffic ticket that was not a fill-in-the-blank form, usually on 4-part NCR?

2d, If all the elements of the accused crime were the same, of course all the wordings on the forms were the same.

Imagine arresting 20, 100, or 177 rioters. Are the LEOs going to type out something different for each? In this case, the charge was engaging in organized crime. Would those charges stick? Possibly, but would most probably be plead WAY down to something such as Mopery in the Third Degree or Gazing With Intent To Gawk; $100 + time served and be gone.

But that is not the issue here. The question is the moving papers that were filed. Stop and think for a moment, if you are going to charge people with “organized” crime, by the very nature of the crime charged, “organization”, people working in consort toward the same criminal end, all the papers would HAVE to be the same, as supposedly all the actors were organized and doing the same criminal thing.

All that said, $1,000,000 bond; legal but stupid. The fill-in-the-blanks paperwork standard if not required.

Many of these defs may eventually walk, but the claim that the arrests were not righteous because of so-called “rubber stamp” paperwork is invalid.

[Cboldt]

-- If all the elements of the accused crime were the same, of course all the wordings on the forms were the same. --

Is your professional opinion that reciting the elements of the crime is sufficient basis for establishing probable cause?

[mad_as_he$$]

So all the allegations were the same on every form and the only thing changed was the names. You are OK with that? I’ll tell that to my local PD chief. His officers are clearly wasting time by not using a prefilled out form. If I were on the grand jury that would be a red flag. Are you actually excusing this lazy and sloppy police work?

[mac_truck]

Good informative posts on this thread CPE...from explaining the boiler plate logic behind the PCAs to the undue burden that mass arrests can place on community resources and how that gets balanced in the eyes of the court.

These Waco threads pop up like moles on a regular basis here thanks to a few dedicated liberaltarians and I'd say you whacked this one pretty good. Well done.