“My main concern here is that there are several on this Conservative website that are convinced that because you are a member of some particular group that it is just fine not to follow Constitutional limits when dealing with these groups. In this case several “Biker Gangs(shudder..)!”
What’s next? Sons of the South? Daughters/Sons of Confederate veterans? Tea party...oh that’s right. IRS has already done their best.
Fer instance. Let’s say that a Crip kills someone. Hard to believe, but it could happen.....So, law enforcement goes and arrests every Crip in Chicago? Why not? They keep detailed records on every known gang affiliate. Why is this not happening?
I do admit, if that happened I probably wouldn’t be as concerned as I am here. Probably because I’m racist.”
The Waco deal would be more in line of the cops learning in advance of a confrontation between a group of Crips and a group of Bloods.
The cops get there and when shooting starts, the cops shoot as well to stop the fight, save innocent nearby civilians from getting hit by stray rounds, etc.
Afterwards, they arrest all the Crips and Bloods present there, on the grounds they showed up in the first place, for the rumble.
The Bandidos and the Cossacks each had a couple of support groups at Waco. The cops arrested the two main gangs, plus support gangs.
The others in attendance not connected to the Bandidos or Cossacks, were not arrested.
It follows Texas’ statute which is similar to federal RICO, or organized crime.
BTW the Bandidos share the same Tier II classification by Texas law enforcement, with the Crips, Bloods and MS13.
Almost all of those arrested have been released on reduced bail, BTW.
Finally gangs like the Crips, Bloods, MS13 and Bandidos benefit from having willing associates with no records, yet.
I have known some biker guys. A friend of mine was killed in 1970, due to a drug situation. He worked at the ARCO refinery in Wilmington, had a wife and daughter. We are still friends with the wife.
Still know some. But the recovery group variety, not the drug dealing variety.
Some where ya’ll got the idea that the only reason that the bikers were meeting was to fight. To resolve some kinda “turf war” or something. These clubs have been meeting regularly for years. With no violence. Not to mention, how would fighting outside a bar resolve a turf war? Last one standing or what?
The fact is as far as I can tell. A regularly scheduled meeting was happening. A fight started. Fights start outside bars all the time. I don’t know how many start in a bathroom....but I digress. 9 people were killed and 18 more wounded seriously. By whom? I think that is one of the questions that should be answered.
B.T.W. Did the fight start outside or in the bathroom?
If the “by whom” part is...oh, let’s say...1 was killed by handgun...8 by 5.56....and 15 were wounded by 5.56. Do you think we got a problem? Or more accurately, does Law Enforcement have a problem?
Sorry. I would really prefer not to speculate. Just asking.