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To: wintertime
What a truckload of crap. Obviously you rely on ed-deform propaganda instead of personal experience teaching. The charter schools quietly toss kids who don't do well academically or who have disciplinary problems out their back door right back to public school, who must take them. Public schools don't have the privilege of picking and choosing. You complain about "single-payer...camps" but you have no problem with single sources of propaganda such as the extremely inaccurate "Waiting for Superman". There is a large movement afoot today to turn education into edu-biz, funded by hedge fund managers and the like. They make millions and millions of dollars pushing for and then operating charter schools and private schools, leaving the leftover lower-achieving or disruptive students to stay behind in public school lest they lower their touted stats. And textbook/exam publishers like Pearson are practically minting money with this scheme.

http://www.propublica.org/article/charter-school-power-broker-turns-public-education-into-private-profits

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-weillgreenberg/public-school-teachers_b_5104289.html

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/bethlehem/mc-lehigh-university-diane-ravitch-20150211-story.html

http://www.odwyerpr.com/story/public/1464/2013-11-18/pearsons-big-ed-biz-is-under-fire.html

http://populardemocracy.org/news/exposing-charter-school-lie-michelle-rhee-louis-ck-and-year-phony-education-reform-revealed-its

http://bizmarts.com/wordpress/archives/8967

34 posted on 05/13/2015 7:25:12 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
Re: “What a truckload of crap.”

Get used to the smell. It's coming. Every year the number of charters grows. Homeschooling increases yearly and is now, by government estimates, 4% of the school-age population. ( It is likely twice that).

Every time a child leaves the government's K-12, single-payer, socialist-entitlement, godless, and price-fixed monopoly-cartel indoctrination camps, there is that much less support for them in the voting booth.

Ideas are the most powerful things in the universe. That we exist at all began as an idea in the mind of God. The idea that schooling can and should be delivered privately is catching on rapidly. The idea that parents are fully capable of choosing a school for their child is growing. Hey! if their 12 year old daughter is supposedly capable of finding a competent abortionist then ( Gee! ) her parent should be able to pick a school! Is a “duh” needed here?

Large intractable institutions, (due to a mere idea), can lose their legitimacy seemingly overnight. A few examples are the Protestant Reformation, The American Revolution, Slavery, and Jim Crow. Government K-12 single-payer indoctrination camps can, too. They aren't special.

35 posted on 05/13/2015 9:18:12 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: EinNYC
instead of personal experience teaching
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's best not to make assumptions, especially about people.

I am one of many reasons why homeschooling is growing. People see how effective homeschooling can be, and how successful adult homeschoolers are socially and professionally and they are persuaded to homeschool their own children.

The following definitely counts as “personal experience in teaching”.

My **homeschooled** children entered college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13. All finished Calculus 3 and all college general courses by the age of 15. Two finished B.S. degrees in mathematics by the age of 18. One earned a masters in math by the age of 20. The oldest pursued a degree in accounting at night and trained full-time as an athlete during the day. Although he traveled the world representing the U.S., he still managed to finish a masters in accounting an age typical of those who are institutionalized for their education.

By the way, my kids aren't any smarter than the children of other Freepers. They were merely homeschooled.

36 posted on 05/13/2015 9:28:35 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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