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The problem has been the focus on irrelevant arguments – some of which are actually unsupported by the evidence.

1. ‘George Zimmerman (GZ) racially profiled Trayvon Martin (TM)’ There is no evidence of this.

2. ‘GZ disobeyed an order by the police’ * The civilian dispatcher, Sean Noffke, testified that he did not give GZ an order and, in fact, he, like his fellow dispatchers, are trained not make comments that sound like commands. * Noffke also testified under cross that, as a result of his asking GZ which way TM was going, GZ could have reasonably interpreted this as being asked to follow Martin. * It is also not a crime in Florida to disregard a comment made by a civilian dispatcher.

3. ‘GZ got out of his car’ Not a crime on public property and not negligent either.

4. ‘GZ followed TM’ Again, anyone can follow anyone on a public street unless the followee has obtained a restraining order against the follower and even there, the order only places time, place, and manner restrictions on the person enjoined.

5. ‘GZ wasn’t really injured’ * Under Florida’s self-defense laws, one doesn’t have to be injured AT ALL to use deadly force * No one is required to refrain from defending himself while another is engaged in or attempting to commit a felony.

6. ‘TM is dead through no fault of his own’ * If you believe that TM assaulted GZ, then he IS dead as a result of his own actions.

7. ‘GZ could have left’ * Under Florida law, there is not a duty to withdraw rather than use deadly force * TM was straddling GZ so how the latter was supposed to leave the scene is unanswered.

8. ‘GZ was armed and TM wasn’t’ * One’s fists can be considered weapons and can result in severe bodily harm or death. * GZ was legally carrying a weapon * There is no requirement under the law that the same weapon be used by the assailant * A homeowner can kill an intruder whether or not he has been threatened * Those that attack cannot feign surprise if they are met with superior firepower.

9. ‘Stand Your Ground!’ * SYG is NOT at issue in this trial. * The defense is a classic self-defense case.

10. ‘Black men NEVER get to use SYG!’ * Wrong http://tinyurl.com/nboht35

11. ‘GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’ * As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.

1 posted on 05/10/2015 9:26:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Collectively 12% of the population commits 50% of the violent crime. That is the problem.

Pray America is waking


54 posted on 05/11/2015 5:14:28 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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Activist, BS. The woman is still trying to make a buck off her dead son.

It is easy to see why her son made such bad choices. Was she there to teach him the basic rights and wrongs of life? Nosiree. Was she there when Trayvon needed some correction and extreme parental guidance? Nosiree. Bad parental skills and poor involvement led an immature Trayvon (he was just a child, remember) into facing a manhood situation for which he was unprepared. AND, when a child confronts an adult, the child is usually the loser. Color doesn’t matter, age and maturity do. PLUS, Somebody forgot to tell Trayvon to respect his elders.

If she would admit to her parental shortcomings instead of blaming someone else, she would be saving the lives of many future Trayvons. That would be a real tribute to Trayvon.

Now you know why that momma pulled her son out of the rioting, she cared enough to give the very best, a kick in the a$$, to the son she loved. Children need a momma and a daddy who care enough to disciple and raise them correctly. Black lives do matter to parents who care.


56 posted on 05/11/2015 6:21:15 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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I followed the Zimmerman trial closely online, live. The facts can be summarized as follows. Zimmerman expected the police to arrive momentarily, Martin could have gone home with no difficulty. All relevant evidence and testimony indicates that Zimmerman fired the shot out of desperation. All except the trial testimony of Trayvon Martin’s parents, which if believed makes the physical evidence a complete puzzle.

57 posted on 05/11/2015 3:36:05 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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“It was absolutely about the color of his skin.”

No it wasn't. Not that being suspicious of young black men in such attire isn't warranted. That is not GZs fault, it the fault of the "black community".

Collectively, we have a problem that we need to fix.

Yeah, and a big clue about the source of the problem is waiting in your mirror. And "we" is everyone else like you and that crip boyfriend/ husband/whatever of yours.

Prior to this happening to my son I didn’t know anything about ‘stand your ground,’...

You still don't. Or much else for that matter.

58 posted on 05/11/2015 3:48:50 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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