Posted on 04/29/2015 8:58:05 AM PDT by fredericbastiat1
What, if anything, would cause President Barack Obama to step away from the negotiating table with Iran? This is the question I find myself pondering in light of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Navy Patrols unchecked act of aggression on Tuesday against Americas interests in the Straits of Hormuz an act that in a sane world would in and of itself put an end to the president's disastrous nuclear deal with Iran. As of this writing, reports indicate that the Iranian Navy Patrol fired shots at and ultimately seized a commercial cargo ship, the M/V Maersk Tigris, which flies under the Marshall Islands flag. Some believe Iran was even targeting a U.S. vessel.
[caption id="attachment_794376" align="aligncenter" width="179"] An Iranian warship takes part in a naval show in 2006. (Photo: AP) [/caption]
In a helpful dispatch, commentator Omri Ceren notes the significant implications of such an action given that the U.S. is: (i) Treaty-bound to secure and defend the Marshall Islands, and (ii) Committed to maintaining the free flow of commerce in the strategically vital waterways of the Middle East -- as affirmed just one week ago on April 21 by White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, State Department Spokesperson Marie Harf and Pentagon Spokesman Col. Steve Warren. The U.S. fulfilling its obligations to its protectorate, and acting to ensure vital shipping lanes remain open are not trivial matters. Further, this act can be seen as a brazen test of the sincerity of U.S. resolve, as it was timed to coincide with the opening of the Senates debate on the Corker-Menendez Iran bill. Yet there is a broader and perhaps more important context in which to consider what Ceren calls an act of "functionally unspinnable Iranian aggression." Even if we ignore the history of Iranian aggression against the U.S. and its allies since the deposal of the Shah in 1979, the firing upon and seizing of the Tigris marks the latest in a long series of such provocations that Iran has undertaken in just the last few months. Consider:
[caption id="attachment_459325" align="aligncenter" width="600"] Iranian women hold an anti-US sign, bearing a cartoon of US President Barack Obama, outside the former US embassy in Tehran on November 2, 2012, during a rally to mark the 33rd anniversary of seizure of the US embassy which saw Islamist students hold 52 US diplomats hostage for 444 days. This year's rally came just days before US presidential election in which Republican challenger Mitt Romney has made Iran's controversial nuclear programme a top foreign policy issue. Credit: AFP/Getty Images [/caption]
Concerning the content of the nuclear deal being negotiated, it should be noted that the Iranians have stated the agreement accomplishes the very opposite of what the American public been led to believe. With respect to sanctions, Iran says they will be fully lifted upon the execution of the accord. As MEMRI notes, in an April 9 address, Irans Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini gave a speech in which he called America a "cheater and a liar" and
publicly set out the negotiating framework for the Iranian negotiating team, the main points of which are: an immediate lifting of all sanctions the moment an agreement is reached; no intrusive oversight of Iran's nuclear and military facilities; the continuation of Iran's nuclear research and development program; and no inclusion of any topics not related to the nuclear program, such as missile capability or anything impacting Iran's support for its proxies in the region.It is no wonder then that the nuclear deal has been lambasted on a bipartisan basis, including at the highest levels of the national security establishment. Even former Secretary of State James Baker is highly critical of the Iran deal and his animus toward Israel, perhaps the primary casualty of the deal, may be second only to that of President Obama. As to whether Khameinis portrayal of the deal is accurate, former CIA analyst and Iran expert Fred Fleitz asserts that under the terms of the agreement, Iran will (i) be able to continue enriching uranium, (ii) not have to disassemble or destroy any enrichment equipment or facilities, (iii) not be required to "permit snap inspections and unfettered access to all Iranian nuclear facilities, including military bases where Iran is believed to have conducted nuclear-weapons work," (iv) be able to continue to operate its Arak heavy-water reactor, a plutonium source, in contravention of IAEA resolutions and (v) be subjected to an eased sanctions regime that will be incredibly difficult to re-impose. If this were not enough, so intent is the Obama Administration on reaching a deal that it has been reported that for signing this agreement, Iran may even receive sweeteners including a $50 billion "signing bonus." The contorted logic used by the president in defense of his progressive stance towards Iran is worthy of Neville Chamberlain. During an interview with New York Times soulmate Thomas Friedman, Obama opined:
Even for somebody who believes, as I suspect Prime Minister Netanyahu believes, that there is no difference between Rouhani and the supreme leader and theyre all adamantly anti-West and anti-Israel and perennial liars and cheaters even if you believed all that, this still would be the right thing to do. It would still be the best option for us to protect ourselves. In fact, you could argue that if they are implacably opposed to us, all the more reason for us to want to have a deal in which we know what theyre doing and that, for a long period of time, we can prevent them from having a nuclear weapon.Sen. Tom Cotton provides a necessary corrective in a recent interview:
I am skeptical that there are many moderates within the [Iranian] leadership I think it's kind of like the search for the vaunted moderates in the Kremlin throughout most of the Cold War, with the exception that we could always count on the Soviet leadership to be concerned about national survival in a way that I don't think we can count on a nuclear-armed Iranian leadership to be solely concerned about national survival.As for Lord Chamberlain, Sen. Cotton he of that irksome letter to Iran -- takes a more charitable view, noting:
It's unfair to Neville Chamberlain to compare him to Barack Obama, because Neville Chamberlain's general staff was telling him he couldn't confront Hitler and even fight to a drawcertainly not defeat the German militaryuntil probably 1941 or 1942. He was operating from a position of weakness. With Iran, we negotiated privately in 2012-2013 from a position of strength not just inherent military strength of the United States compared to Iran, but also from our strategic position.To those who recognize reality, this deal coupled with our weak response to the ongoing provocations of the Iranian Government -- not only threatens our national security and that of our allies, but reflects an utter dereliction of duty to uphold the Constitution, and protect our people against foreign enemies. In a word, it is treasonous.
America gave the GOP both houses of Congress,
and in return, they fell on their knees for
their undocumented Tyrant-King from Indonesia,
as they sent the IRS against their own voters.
“What, if anything, would cause President Barack Obama to step away from the negotiating table with Iran?”
Well, stop asking that question. Nothing Obama does will make any sense until you realize his objective is to punish and diminish America. I lot of man-hours, money, and megabytes would have been saved over the years had people figured this out sooner. To keep thinking that Obama is a bumbling idiot who thinks Iran is negotiating in good faith is inexcusable.
“America gave the GOP both houses of Congress,
and in return, they fell on their knees for
their undocumented Tyrant-King from Indonesia,
as they sent the IRS against their own voters.”
-SPOT ON.
Ouch!!
Iran would have to endorse Ted Cruz for President. That might do it, but actually, nothing will sway Obama from his self appointed task to destroy Israel and the West.
GOP = Giving Obama Power
It wasn't the Maersk Kensington and in any case it wasn't a U.S. flagged vessel.
Obama is like the cokehead/party guy who tries to negotiate with Hans Gruber in the movie “Die Hard”.
Obama is hoping for a legacy which the MSM will send anything that opposes it down the memory hole.
Our entire civilization is blowing up and all this mook cares about is his legacy, which will be forged.
Shame
Since Obama has allowed shipping through the Strait to be affected, he must want it to be affected.
It wasn't the Maersk Kensington and in any case it wasn't a U.S. flagged vessel.
Section 311
(a) The Government of the United States has full authority and responsibility for the security and defense matter in or relating to the Republic of the Marshall Islands.
(b) this authority and responsibility includes:
(1) the obligation to defend the Republic of the Marshall Islands and its people from attack or threats thereof as the United States and its citizens are defended;
(2) the option to foreclose access to or use of the Republic of the Marshall Islands by military personnel or for the military purposes of any third country; and
(3) the option to establish and use military areas and facilities in the Republic of the Marshall Islands, subject to the terms of the separate agreements referred to in sections 321 and 323.
(c) The Government of the United States confirms that it shall act in accordance with the principles of international law and the Charter of the United Nations in the exercise of this authority and responsibility.
It wasn’t a US flagged ship but it was registered in the Marchall Island which although getting independence from the US in 1986 still enjoys the “umbrella” of a US protectorate. So this is a stick in our eye.
If Obama had any stone at all he would have sunk that Iranian warship and then asked the Khomeni what he was going to do about it. Which would be beach and moan and chant death to America which he does everyday anyway.
The Marshall Islands are a flag of convenience where shipping companies will register their ships for tax purposes. Between Liberia, Panama, and the Marshall Islands close to all half to all ships are registered there. It has nothing to do with the U.S.
And your point is? Are you saying that the U.S. has the responsibility to protect all of the hundreds of ships that choose to register in the Marshall Islands for tax reasons?
And your point is? Are you saying that the U.S. has the responsibility to protect all of the hundreds of ships that choose to register in the Marshall Islands for tax reasons?
The U.S. Government has the same obligation to defend all ships sailing under the flag of the Marshall Islands as it does to defend all ships sailing under the American flag. By treaty and by law. See sub-paragraph (1): [The Government of the United States has full authority and responsibility for the security and defense matter in or relating to the Republic of the Marshall Islands. . . this authority and responsibility includes] the obligation to defend the Republic of the Marshall Islands and its people from attack or threats thereof as the United States and its citizens are defended
Nobody has invaded the Marshall Islands and none of their citizens are on the ship.
What part of my factual post did you not understand? I repeat:
“It wasnt a US flagged ship but it was registered in the Marchall Island which although getting independence from the US in 1986 still enjoys the umbrella of a US protectorate”
The fact that we are not going to do anything about the Iranians act of piracy has bearing on the factuality of what I posted.
What part of my factual post did you not understand? I repeat:
It wasnt a US flagged ship but it was registered in the Marshall Islands which although getting independence from the US in 1986 still enjoys the umbrella of a US protectorate
The fact that we are not going to do anything about the Iranians act of piracy has no bearing on the factuality of what I posted.
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