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CRUZ or LOSE!Posted on 04/18/2015 11:03:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Over at American Thinker, Pedro Gonzales offers an excellent overview of the GOP field's positions on Amnesty. Here's the executive summary: only one candidate has never changed his position on the topic.
Jeb Bush
"...Jeb, as we all know, supports amnesty for illegal aliens, and he's proud of it. If he were running in Honduras, I would vote for him in a minute..."
Marco Rubio
"...Rubio co-authored a bill that would have given amnesty to illegal aliens. He has since tried to walk back from that..."
Chris Christie
"...Chris has been cagey on the subject, but one thing is clear: he ordered his appointee to Frank Lautenberg's Senate seat to vote for Marco Rubio's amnesty bill..."
Rick Perry
"...Perry is tough on illegal immigrants! He sent a handful of national guard troops to the border! (With orders not to arrest any illegals.) But as for those illegals who manage to slip through this imposing gauntlet, Perry rewards them with taxpayer-subsidized college educations. If he's paying for illegals to go to college, I think it's safe to say he supports amnesty..."
Mike Huckabee
"...in February 2007, Huckabee ... stated, 'We shouldn't have amnesty where we just say, "Fine, everybody's good, we're going to let it go.' We should have a process where people can pay the penalties, step up and accept responsibility for not being here legally..."
Scott Walker
"...Walker backed the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill in 2006... [and] went as far as to tell POLITICO in 2013 that he supported a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants..."
Rand Paul
"...Paul claims he's against amnesty, but he voted for an amendment to give 2 million 'temporary' visas to illegal aliens annually...who could then apply for citizenship. It looks like amnesty to me..."
Ted Cruz
"Cruz is the only major candidate who has never supported or endorsed amnesty."
As they say on the real blogs, read the whole thing.
What music are we to play?
Will you please supply the links to represent you?
Politicians have never represented the will of the people. We select these people to REPRESENT us; what happens is they wind up RULING us. It is one of many delusions to which we cling.
We cling to the delusion of being The United States of America when we are anything but united. We are divided on race, sex, abortion, foreign policy, domestic policy, marriage, health care, and on and on.
We delude ourselves with the concept of “rule of law”, when it doesn’t exist anymore. Just take a look at our courts and their rulings. And the Constitution matters nothing.
Another delusion is thinking we can reform political parties from within. It can’t and won’t happen because the people in control won’t allow it. How much success has The TEA Party had in changing the political system? How much success has Occupy Wall Street Had?
So, we labor on, living under delusion, like worker ants aspiring to be queen. There is one - AND ONLY ONE - way to turn delusion into reality. WE MUST RESTORE THE REPUBLIC. We can do it the easy way or the hard way. Knowing human nature, I’m sure it’ll be the hard way.
Why should I engage with someone who has publicly - for all here to see - proven himself an absolute @$$h01e in post 35 with zero provocation on my part. Your “sincerity” is laughable.
If you somehow divined provocation in post 34, perhaps your (delusional, drunk, high, whatever) state you’re in should be declared so we can take that into account.
You get one more chance to prove your sincerity and amend your unprovoked insult. If I don’t respond to your reply to this, then you are still an unreformed, self-demonstrated @$$h01e. That’s on you; not me. Are we clear?
Huh?
Fine, tell us what input you have about immigration.
What do you have that benefits us, or that is a part of our team?
Oh and one other thing to all my FR friends...we should not expect perfect ideological purity on every issue from our candidates...the only person ON THE PLANET that I agree with 100% of the time is ME...seems like a tall order to demand that from somebody else. So you've got to pick and choose your important deal-breaker issues and also look at the sum total of where that person stands on the spectrum. But all that can be done without running the other guy thru a grinder of your own making.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/rick-perry-immigration-reform_n_3007523.html
Perry denounced a possible pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, a proposal that has divided some Republicans as the Senate negotiates an immigration reform plan. Perry claimed that a pathway to citizenship already exists, and that it is.......
“to get in line and pay your dues and to meet the requirements of citizenship.”
And even though Cruz has voiced that he is against a pathway to citizenship, he HAS proposed
Cruz has shown some vague support for a “path to legal status,” according to The New York Times. He has also proposed DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF GREEN CARDS given out each year.
[And what about that number of green cards?]
http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=137
WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) today presented an amendment to the Gang of Eight immigration bill that would improve our nation’s legal immigration system by increasing high-skilled temporary worker visas, called H-1B visas, by 500 PERCENT.
[So Cruz wants to increase worker visas to high tech jobs by 500 PERCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is really going to help American high tech workers
RIGHT? NOT
Be careful
There's some idiots here that would contest that statement.
Those freepers are going to bitch about every single candidate, including Cruz.
Re: “So Cruz is your immigration villain?”
Yes - he is habitually dishonest, misleading, or evasive on this issue.
But, so is the entire GOP leadership, and at least 50% of the GOP rank-and-file, so he’s never lonely.
You have a better chance of getting killed in a drone strike than Sarah Palin running for President.
CRUZ or LOSE! Didn't know she was running.
Look at the comments at the original article. Everyone for Cruz.
Most of them just apre the contemptible and criminal sentiments of our treasonous ‘elite’, where pissing on America and Americans is understood as a sign of sophistication.
“...Those freepers are going to bitch about every single candidate, including Cruz...”
You are absolutely right! We all probably know folks who aren’t happy unless they are miserable.
Cruz is the only GOP presidential candidate I might vote for.
Aside from his immigration policy, which is a political catastrophe for America and the Republican Party, I support Cruz on every other major issue.
As to which candidate might be better than Cruz on immigration, the answer is easy - none of them, with Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio being the most extreme and most unacceptable of all.
Immigration - specifically, decades of massive LEGAL immigration - is my number one issue. The Republican Party is losing national elections and being pulled relentlessly to the Left because of millions of imported Socialist voters. It may already be too late to reverse the damage.
Your intolerance for political “purity” on immigration tells me the only thing I need to know about your politics - massive LEGAL immigration is not your number one issue.
You said "Your intolerance for political “purity” on immigration"
Don't you see that this is my point? Apparently immigration is an important issue for you. For me its the 2A and an overall overreach of the FedGov. I'm sure we both have a litany of lesser issues that concern us (for the record, one of mine is illegal immigration). But, we as conservatives, MUST stop eating our own and lambasting the other conservative candidates in an effort to build up our own.
I'm firmly in Cruz' camp. But I might HAVE to vote for Walker or Paul or even Rubio...so it's ridiculous for me to tear any of them down.
I just wish we would all stop cherry picking factoids to tear a candidate down. We should all be building our guys up, not railing against them on issue x or y as though they are Satan incarnate.
We so damage our own candidates because we are seeking PERSONAL idealogical purity, that we make the resulting nominee a weakened, damaged product.
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