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To: kiryandil

Guilty until proven innocent...? Are you serious?

Question: if you get pulled over by a cop, who tells you to stay in your car, and you then flee on foot, are you innocent?

Let’s not start with the “shooting offense” question at this point. Just answer whether the cop has the right to arrest you for fleeing. (Hint: Answer=Yes)

Next up... you are fleeing a cop who orders you to stop. You choose not to and instead run a hundred yards away. When the cop orders you to get on the ground, you instead decide to engage in a struggle. Guilty of anything yet? (Hint: Answer=Yes)

Have we reached shooting offense yet? No, but... and this is the part that is unclear, but for which I see some reasonable doubt...

If you are struggling with the cop and MAYBE you get a hold of his taser and MAYBE you attempt to discharge the weapon at the cop but MAYBE don’t get a clean hit off. At this point, you MAYBE have shown yourself to be interested in disabling the cop (much akin to trying to knock him out with a brick to the head). In the 1 second following the struggle where you MAYBE attempted to tase the cop, does he have the right to assume you still mean him or someone else serious harm and have the right to stop you with deadly force?

Here’s the problem: you’re incoherent posts keep making some tangential comments about smokescreens and racism and all black men looking alike. You make plenty of assumptions about what you THINK happened, but afford no possible assumptions on the officer’s part even though the whole thing happened fast, with little time for him to carefully contemplate his actions.

While I am certain you are absolutely flawless in every way and have never made snap decisions while being attacked by someone, I think there are still some outstanding questions regarding this case.

Your comment about “guilty until proven innocent” is particularly inane, because Scott MADE himself guilty of several crimes *up to the shooting* while the police officer was lawfully executing his duties. Notice that I said “up to” the shooting. I have made no judgment yet whether the shooting was lawful because... well... I’m not sitting on the jury hearing ALL the evidence.

It is people like me for which we have trial by jury. It is people like you for which we have lynchings and mobs.


683 posted on 04/13/2015 5:14:18 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
Question: if you get pulled over by a cop, who tells you to stay in your car, and you then flee on foot, are you innocent?

If it's not my car, and he doesn't catch me, AND I haven't given him my license, yes, I'm innocent.

You Police Staters make me laugh when you start extolling the beauty of the shiny prison bars, and how WONDERFUL it is to feel "safe" in Prison Merika. LOL! :)

Next up... you are fleeing a cop who orders you to stop. You choose not to and instead run a hundred yards away. When the cop orders you to get on the ground, you instead decide to engage in a struggle.

I'm pretty sure Officer Feared-For-My-Authority decided to engage in a struggle. Betcha he's rueing his decision right about now. I also bet if you gave Slager a do-over, he'd opt for the pick-him-up-later plan so fast it would make your head spin. :)

Here’s the problem: you’re incoherent posts keep making some tangential comments about smokescreens and racism and all black men looking alike.

I didn't say anything about racism. I don't think this has ANYTHING to do with racism, which is why the family doesn't want that tax-evading unprosecuted felon scum Sharpton around.

I think it has to do with Copism, and why they "fear for their authority", and why we have so many around, and why some few of them can't use their big heads instead of their little heads.

Slager had Scott's license, his car, and his pal. He just didn't have Scott's grovel to his authority. Bad call, Slager.

While I am certain you are absolutely flawless in every way and have never made snap decisions while being attacked by someone,..

I don't bring attacks on myself by trying to prove how manly I am, and how I'm not going to be dissed by some peasant, unlike Officer Feared-For-My-Authority.

Your comment about “guilty until proven innocent” is particularly inane, because Scott MADE himself guilty of several crimes *up to the shooting* while the police officer was lawfully executing his duties.

Once again, in your little Bizarro Police State World, all the peasants are apparently "guilty" by mere contact with a Blue-Suited Superhero.

I have made no judgment yet whether the shooting was lawful because... well... I’m not sitting on the jury hearing ALL the evidence.

LOL! Juries rarely, if ever, hear ALL the evidence. How old are you, anyway?

687 posted on 04/13/2015 5:43:30 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: bolobaby
You are wrong.

One is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, judged by his or her peers or by a judge and having access to competent legal counsel.

695 posted on 04/13/2015 5:56:19 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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