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You are totally wrong. I’m sorry. History is full of examples exactly as I lay it out. When it comes to fight or turn traitor to keep their power, they will suddenly discover how similar the goals of Islam and socialism are. It’s no problem for them at all. They will tell you that under Islam, everybody is cared for etc etc. And they already had no problem telling people how to live their lives. They just make some adjustments, take a Muslim name, and carry on in the same power positions. I’m not making this up. Every invaded city faced the danger of their leaders pulling a switch to save their skins. They will literally open the city gates at night to allow the final invasion to succeed. The next morning, surviving infidels discover that their mayor or prince is now calling himself by a name that includes Mohammed. Please, believe me. Atheists and socialists only worship power, they have no core principles. When it takes “reverting” to Islam to hold their power, they will do so. This is not conjecture, this is bitterly learned history from Mohammed’s time until now. Believe me.

You disagree that they are stupid and ignorant and have utopian fantasies dancing in their heads and enjoy what Islam is doing to certain others as long as it isn’t them?

That they fantasize that they are in charge of the World?

That reality is the very last thing they are about?

Ok.

You’re attacking the wrong person, but hey, I’m a big girl and I can take it, smile, and promptly forget.

I mostly agree with what you write.

My question is toward the liberal supporting masses that give the socialist elite their power. What is in it for the lib little guy?

Surely they can see from much repeated history that they too will be among the subjugated.

I suspect the liberals who strive for socialism, friend the muslims as an assist in overcoming conservatives/capitalists and that they more or less practice, The enemy of my enemy, is my friend, with every intention on having supreme power over the muslims as well.

And naturally, the muslims see the liberal socialists this same way.

The Left worships at the altar of power and control because these elites imagine themselves as the guiding lights of the dumb masses. One of the biggest problems the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP or Nazis) had with their recruits was defectors to the Communist Party. Both were totalitarian but differed only in who controlled what by whom. Likewise the Communists saw members defecting to the Nazis. Those who switched “isms” were considered apostates to the true state religion and were the worst of the worst traitors.

The hubris of the Leftists look at Islam such that appears to be so very similar to their beliefs. In the Left's reasoning, Islam's differences in beliefs and mode of operation can be overlooked or ignored. If the Left arranges the victory of Islam over the West, the Left thinks they will be in charge. They do NOT understand that Islam has no place for them in its new caliphate. The Left are the first to be purged; killed, converted (and Dhimmis of the mullahs), or enslaved. It IS that simple, but the arrogant and stupid Left cannot see this at all.