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Japan pressed for apology over 1945 Battle of Manila
japantimes.co.jp ^ | Feb 15, 2015 | Japan Times

Posted on 02/15/2015 4:26:23 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

Survivors and descendants of the victims of the 1945 Battle of Manila are pressing Japan to apologize for atrocities committed by its forces that left tens of thousands dead.

Juan Jose Rocha, head of the Memorare-Manila 1945 Foundation, a group of survivors and descendants of noncombatant victims of the battle, said during a memorial ceremony Saturday that an apology by Japan “is long overdue.”

“The purpose of our group is not to recriminate, nor to seek compensation, but just to commemorate and request Japan to recognize what they did here,” Rocha said at the ceremony held in front of a monument erected by his group 20 years ago. The monument memorializes the approximately 100,000 civilians who died during the Battle of Manila, which lasted from Feb. 3 to March 3, 1945, toward the end of World War II.

According to Rocha, around 70,000 of the civilians who died were “victims of heinous crimes or massacres” perpetrated by Japanese forces.

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1 posted on 02/15/2015 4:26:23 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“a landscape of hell”
2 posted on 02/15/2015 4:28:04 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Japanese were sub-human in their viciousness. Thank God for the atomic bombs we had, and the men who had the courage to use them.


3 posted on 02/15/2015 4:35:22 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Berlin_Freeper

While I’m sure that atrocities were committed during this time I also believe that very few people are alive today in Japan that had anything directly to do with it. This is kind of like asking someone living in Alabama today to apologize for slavery in the Antebellum South. At some point you just need to remember the past but move on.


4 posted on 02/15/2015 4:35:45 AM PST by Desron13
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To: Berlin_Freeper
While I agree that tremendous atrocities were committed by Japan during the war (Bataan Death March, Rape of Nanking, torture, etc) - the time to scream for "apologies" is past.

WW II began 76 years ago (1939). Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931 - 84 years ago. Time to move on. Moreover, going back decades and centuries, looking for this and that leads to nothing but animosity for current and future generations. American Blacks today want "reparations" for slavery - and ZERO of these people have experienced slavery. Enough is enough.

5 posted on 02/15/2015 4:38:08 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Desron13

I more or less agree with your point but the problem is that this generation is being lied to by the Japanese government. The Japanese leadership is sliding back to the fantasyland of Japan’s being “forced” into the war and hinting that atrocities never happened.

This generation and the ones that follow need to know the truth, not fiction.


6 posted on 02/15/2015 4:53:34 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Talk with those who lived through any of this. Some of the clearest memories, still intact, in the waning years for these folks. Events witnessed as a young person; seeing beheadings, rapes, friends burning alive, and barely escaping away into the mountains.

"Never Forget" will be the least we can do.

Preparing/preventing/holding accountable for CURRENT atrocities we CAN and should do. Evils of these kinds should not go un-punished.

We let WWII issues slide for too many years now, but when it happens again, and it has and it will, what will we do?

Burning prisoners alive in cages? WTF?
7 posted on 02/15/2015 4:54:52 AM PST by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: SkyPilot

If the Japanese histories and school textbooks described what really happened, I’d agree with you. The problem is though that the Japanese leadership and media and schools are either suppressing the truth or even glorifying an artificial view of their conduct during the war they started.

The last thing the world needs is a resurgent, militant Japan.


8 posted on 02/15/2015 4:57:41 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail
The last thing the world needs is a resurgent, militant Japan.

Which you may get as the PRC moves on the South China Sea and the US turns it back on it's treaty obligations.

9 posted on 02/15/2015 5:02:30 AM PST by AU72
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To: Chainmail
A couple years ago, wife and I toured Pearl Harbor and took the Navy launch out to the Arizona Memorial. With us were a dozen or so Japanese tourists.

I asked one young woman why she wanted to visit the wreck and she admitted she and her friends wanted to see what her grandfathers and great grandfathers had done. They couldn't believe Japan had deliberately attacked the island, killing so many young Americans.

10 posted on 02/15/2015 5:15:54 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Chainmail

With US foreign policy abandoning her allies, the global village is in for a wild ride.

Japan has no choice but to re-arm. One of my uncles was in the Bataan Death March, so my family has some understanding of Japanese inhumanity. However, citing mis-education of Japanese children as a concern is ironic given the state of American education.

The great danger the world faces is not a nuclear Japan, but an emasculated America, bereft of her own history and opposed to the very ideals she once epitomized.


11 posted on 02/15/2015 5:24:52 AM PST by antidisestablishment (When the passion of your convictions surpass those of your leader, it's past time for a change.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

In Japan, the Japs believe they didn’t do anything wrong.

In REALITY—the Japs were FAR WORSE than the NAZIs—they just didn’t document their horrors as well as their allies did.


12 posted on 02/15/2015 5:38:58 AM PST by Flintlock (Soapbox didn't work; ballot box neither--we're left with the BULLET BOX.)
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To: Flintlock
In REALITY—the Japs were FAR WORSE than the NAZIs—they just didn’t document their horrors as well as their allies did.

Hitler when briefed about the Japaneses behavior in Nanking he indicated he thought his ally was being too cruel.. When Hitler thinks you are being too cruel there is a huge problem.

13 posted on 02/15/2015 5:42:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SkyPilot
American Blacks today want "reparations" for slavery - and ZERO of these people have experienced slavery.

STILL Slavery, same Democrats, just different Masters.

And, the Judas Goats


14 posted on 02/15/2015 5:43:54 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: central_va
Hitler thought he was being too cruel only because the Japanese weren't as efficient at slaughtering "subhumans" as the Germans were.

The reason we didn't go after the Japanese and German people as hard after WW II as we did after WW I, was two reasons:

1) The American leadership saw that embittering a former enemy will only lay the groundwork for another war within a generation.

2) We needed allies and bases to stand up to the Russkies during the Cold War.

15 posted on 02/15/2015 5:47:23 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: central_va

The various atrocities the Japanese and Germans committed were horrible acts, pushing them out of our minds should never happen, they need to be kept in history so future generations will realize there was and still is, evil in this world. Hopefully, things like that will never be allowed to happen again, which brings us to today. ISIS has been doing much the same things, are we to just ignore them too?


16 posted on 02/15/2015 5:57:55 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Flintlock

Not completely true. The Japanese population is not unaware of what their grand parents did.


17 posted on 02/15/2015 6:18:26 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
The reason we didn't go after the Japanese and German people as hard after WW II as we did after WW I...

We let many, many Axis war criminals off the hook for the reasons you listed. There was quite a lot of: The war criminal is sentenced to death, or life imprisonment...soon after the sentence is reduced...soon after the war criminal is released because of "poor health".

I certainly understand the reasoning there. But it made a mockery of the victims of the Axis.

18 posted on 02/15/2015 6:25:31 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Flintlock

People should read the book Fly Boys. The first chapter gives a brief but very good perspective of the war from the Japanese side. It is not meant as an excuse, but to present their logic. Very interesting.


19 posted on 02/15/2015 6:27:06 AM PST by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: Mears

bfl


20 posted on 02/15/2015 6:28:53 AM PST by Mears
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