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To: i_robot73
Sorry, I beg to differ. It required NOT a religious peoples, it merely requires one to read, follow and ENFORCE the plain English of the Constitution.

How and why do you think the Declaration and the Constitution even came into being???? It DID and DOES require a religious and moral people to maintain the liberty as intended for us.

Take God and religion out of the equation and leave the culture to secular passions that are imposed on the meaning of the Constitution - and what you get is what you currently see around us: debauchery and tyranny.

A people who will not be governed by God and biblical religion will be ruled by the tyrants and tyranny of men.

Here we are.

A Constitution, no matter what Amendments are placed in it, has no affect or power to ensure the liberty it is intended to safeguard if the people in the nation are not a moral and religious people, because the liberty as intended for us is a BIBLICAL construct, not a SECULAR one.

John Adams made this point perfectly clear:

"[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams, 1798

26 posted on 01/31/2015 5:27:17 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

I say with no disrespect: John Adams gave his *impression*, his thought upon...he is not the whole/arbiter of the Constitution.

As an agnostic, *I* can read the words and understand their meaning: There are things ‘above’ mortal Man; his yearning for Freedom/Liberty/etc. Even I can acknowledge the question of our being (a soul? consciousness). I don’t know the answer(s) from when they originate; their source. If one wants to ‘chalk it up’ to their Creator, I, for one, believe that’s as good as any a place to begin....whom am I to judge or cast doubt? But, I’m willing, and open, to seasoned debate that COULD change my mind/way of thinking/belief (what more could be asked of anyone?).

But, to say it requires a moral/religious people to understand?? Sorry, no, not to me. Again, the simple reading of the English language is what is being perverted today; the secularism of gov’t/Left (anti-religion) only exacerbates the issues.

I have no issue seeing that abortion is wrong (science), or the ‘taxing’ by force for ‘charity’ (theft/slavery), etc. etc. etc. If there is a quote one must always bear in mind, to paraphrase: “Gov’t is a necessary evil. Like fire...”.

One must ALWAYS keep an eye out for the evils of Man, religious or not. Religion has/can be the crutch one uses to enslave another/others...’for their own good’...tyrants will be tyrants.


28 posted on 01/31/2015 7:10:13 PM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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