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To: CpnHook
while trying to conceal the truncation by omitting the citation --

Nobody is concealing anything. You are just not taken seriously enough that I bother to look up primary sources, and instead I just pull crap off the internet. You really aren't worth the expenditure of any time or effort.

What you have demonstrated by putting the rest of that quote in there is that Rawle is still causing problems from 30 years earlier.

If that quote is accurate, (and i'm not going to bother checking) then Wilson is on your side. His opinion still has zero provenance to the men who knew the correct answer, so it is just another example of the blind leading the blind, which is pretty much the only sort of people you've got on your side.

that a person who does that is a deceitful putz, I'm sure Gray and I would agree.

Yes, i'm absolutely sure that you and Gray would agree.

441 posted on 02/09/2015 2:55:03 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
Nobody is concealing anything. You are just not taken seriously enough that I bother to look up primary sources, and instead I just pull crap off the internet.

You've never looked up the primary sources. You can't have ever read Wilson's comments in context (nor anyone else's) or else you wouldn't be citing them. You're lazy; that's why it's easy to toy with you.

His opinion still has zero provenance to the men who knew the correct answer

LOL. You were all gung-ho about citing the House Judiciary Committee Chairman. Now that I've shown you're way off base, you shift tack and claim his opinion lacks provenance?

Who, btw, in any of the debates in the 39th Congress on citizenship is citing to any of the authorities whose views you assert have provenance? The ones I'm seeing cited are the likes of Blackstone, James Kent, William Rawle, and the "great case of Lynch v. Clarke." Your supposed "sources with provenance" are absent.

Face it, your oft-stated claim that Horace Gray's opinion erred by not adequately considering the legislative history now lies dead like road-kill rotting in the summer sun. Howard, Trumbull, Wilson and others clearly advocated the view that Gray embraced. You can selectively sample and truncate quotes all day, my statement remains true.

which is pretty much the only sort of people you've got on your side

I've got the authors of the Civil Rights Act (Trumbull) and the draftsman of the 14 Amendment citizenship clause (Howard) squarely on my side. Plus Wilson (whose view is in no way explicitly challenged by Bingham). Your appeal to the legislative history is clearly premised on your merely finding stuff others and put on the internet and believing that told the story.

443 posted on 02/10/2015 11:06:35 AM PST by CpnHook
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