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To: CpnHook
So much for ignoring what I write. Though it's clear you ignore what is inconvenient to your argument and then jump back in when you believe you have a point to make.

I was wondering how long it would take you to make that point.

If I see a massive wall of text, I'll peruse a sentence or two, and if it looks like it's going in a stupid direction, I just don't bother. You keep making rehashed points which have been knocked down dozens of times, and some of us are just fed up with repeating ourselves.

The moment you see "natural law" you equate it with "citizen parents." That isn't the case. Natural law underlies the jus soli principle which came to the Framers through Coke, Blackstone and the ECL.

Silly boy. I am fully aware that the Monarchy had it's own version of "Natural Law." Their version of "Natural Law" was that the King was empowered by God to rule over the rest, and it was his divine right to do so.

The philosophers of the time were quite aware that the supporters of monarchy also claimed "natural law" as their basis, but they made a very great distinction between the arguments of Kings, and their own "Rights of man" arguments. You should read up on Samuel Rutherford, one of the few philosophers actually mentioned in the Notes on the Convention. (US Constitutional Convention.) It is not a coincidence that the authorities burned his books and accused him of high treason. :)

Obviously the founders didn't follow the Monarchy version of "natural law", or else we would still be ruled by the British Monarchy.

337 posted on 02/04/2015 2:17:46 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
I was wondering how long it would take you to make that point.

No long. I'm usually about two steps ahead of you in these matters.

I am fully aware that the Monarchy had it's own version of "Natural Law." Their version of "Natural Law" was that the King was empowered by God to rule over the rest, and it was his divine right to do so.

But that aspect of natural law incorporated the idea of allegiance. And if you notice, that concept is common to both Blackstone and the Founders/Framers. Natural law concepts encompass far more than just the divine right of kings. Blackstone wrote on the matter of personal liberty -- you know that inherent, inalienable rights stuff. You are rather simple-minded in your outlook.

I gave you an entire article on the influence of Blackstone's natural law view on the Declaration and Constitution. You try reading it and getting past this "it's either all English natural law or some other natural law" view.

350 posted on 02/04/2015 4:04:53 PM PST by CpnHook
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