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To: John Valentine

From your reply:

“..... But I think that he can not be cosidered naturalized as there was no different citizenship from which he was converted or naturalized a a citizen of the US. He has never been a citizen of any other State or Nation.

The pamphlet (which I very much wish I still had among my papers) did not say he was considered naturalized,only that he could not be considered natural born,and would not be considered eligible for the Presidency. ...”

Many many thanks for the info!

It fits what I have been thinking all throughout this many-year discussion about “natural born citizen” ...

a “natural born citizen” doesn’t need to look up the ‘definition’ in a statute somewhere, and/or see if his or her circumstances of birth are addressed in said statute.


117 posted on 01/23/2015 7:41:15 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: WildHighlander57
a “natural born citizen” doesn’t need to look up the ‘definition’ in a statute somewhere, and/or see if his or her circumstances of birth are addressed in said statute.

Exactly. Here is an example of conditional citizenship which was rescinded because the naturalized at birth citizen failed to adhere to the conditional requirements of his citizenship.

That these requirements were later removed does not have any bearing on the artificial nature of this sort of citizenship. Congress can put them back on at any time they wish.

Such citizenship is wholly at the mercy of whatever congress feels like doing with it.

144 posted on 01/29/2015 11:19:30 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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