As the above article points out:
PolitiFact's Robert Farley added that a reporter named Will Hoover checked with newspaper officials and "confirmed those notices came from the state Department of Health," with Hoover explaining, "That's not the kind of stuff a family member calls in and says, 'Hey, can you put this in?'" Farley then pondered, "Take a second and think about that. In order to phony those notices up, it would have required the complicity of the state Health Department and two independent newspapers -- on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States."
Here is the part of your post I responded to:
‘However, the contemporaneous birth announcement blows those theories out of the water in any case. Remember, Toot didn’t place the announcement. The announcement appears in two separate papers, each containing the same list of babies in the same order.’
So I put up a post documenting that the two papers do not contain the same list of babies in the same order; one paper contained significantly more listings than the other. But now you say that’s irrelevant. The differing lists with a different number of announcements came from the same source, so that’s all that matters.
To ‘prove’ your point, you quote a reporter from Politifact. This Politifact:
‘PolitiFact now declares conservatives wrong three times more often than liberals. More pointedly, the journalism organization concludes that conservatives have flat out lied nine times more often than liberals.’
One reporter from a leftist political site claims he checked with unnamed newspaper ‘officials’ and you say the matter is resolved.
Your leftist Obot comrades must be so proud.
So this reporter when back to 1961, walked into the offices of both papers, laid cash on the counter and asked if he could place a birth announcement. Both papers told him to keep his $; they could ***only*** accept announcements from the Dept. of Health.
Well first off I flat don’t believe that. Secondly, I have yet to meet a birther who claims Obama’s family placed the ads in that way. Rather, as I would think you’d know, unless you are a newbie on this topic, most birthers believe Grannie Dunham registered Little Barry’s birth herself, likely as a home birth.
Why would we think that? Well first off, the address. If Stanley Ann had gone to a HI hospital to deliver the baby, she’d have given her own address, or at any rate her own address would have been used. Instead, the address used belongs to Grannie Dunham, but is not one at which either Stanley Ann or the baby EVER resided.
Second clue is that Abercrombie told his friend Evans that he could find no birth certificate on file for Obama. Yes, that’s what he told Evans. & Evans told the world’ Here is one such exchange:
‘Evans: Yesterday I talked to Neil. Said that he searched everywhere using all of his power as governor, looking at Kapiolani Women and Children’s Hospital and Queens Medical Center, where children were born back in that day. And he (Abercrombie) said, “Mike, there is no Barack Obama birth certificate.”
Announcer: He’s a foreigner! We knew it from the start!
Announcer #2: Well, I thought, I thought the holder of the certificate said it was locked up and she had seen it.
Evans: Well, the governor demanded to see it, went to the hospital, sent all of his people, with a search warrant, and he could not get it. Uh, there, he’s really good friends to the President but he says, he thinks this could cause some problems during re-election.’
http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/Abercrombie.htm
But no need to hear it from Evans. Abercrombie said it himself. After vowing to find the LFBC and make it public, here is his exact statement:
‘It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...’
http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/252833/
So there was no BC. There was something ‘written down.’ It was written down as a result of Grannie Dunham registering a birth in HI that did not take place in HI. That is why she used an address in the announcement at which neither her daughter nor the baby had ever resided. & that is why they later had to fabricate a LFBC where none had previously existed. They made the mistake of fabricating a whole new race at the same time, but hey, no worries. An Obot will believe anything...as, evidently, will most anti-birthers.
The papers got the announcements from the dept of health, not from the parents calling them up.
So the phoney baloney would be at the health dept, instigated by someone or some organization with a lot of money and power.
What we have are microfilms of the announcements as posted in the two papers.... with evidence that they’ve been messed with.
What we need are the hardcopies... isn’t there -anyone- born in Honolulu august 1961 with a hardcopy?
Especially if its got a notable persons name on it.