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To: cynwoody

No, the evidence very clearly refutes the HDoH:

‘NEW YORK, July 24 (UPI) — CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein told staffers of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” the controversy over President Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a “dead story.”

Klein wrote in an e-mail to staffers Thursday that CNN researchers had determined Hawaiian officials discarded paper birth documents in 2001. Thus, he said, Obama’s long-form birth certificate no longer exists, and a shorter certificate that is public is the official record.

“It seems to definitively answer the question,” Klein wrote in the e-mail, first reported by the Web site TVNewser. “Since the show’s mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite (sic). And then it seems this story is dead — because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.”’

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/07/24/CNN-chief-Obama-birth-story-dead/76681248480120/#ixzz3PeQi7pHi

I became a birther shortly after CNN issued this report. All the anti-birthers embraced it. They told us thousands of times over that no LFBC existed for Obama. They were quite vicious about it. Not one of them ever even once questioned the CNN/HI report. Rather, they just told us over and over that the COLB was all there was.

Their perfidy became evident as soon as Obama released the so-called LFBC. Without missing a beat, all the anti-birthers who had claimed it no longer existed suddenly claimed the released version was authentic.

They are such liars. Every last one of them. Lying liars. Whatever narrative Obama puts out, they believe it. He’s a pathological liar, but in the eyes of the anti-birthers his word is the gold standard. He says he was born in Kenya. Well, okay, anti-birthers agree that *that* time he was lying. But then he says he was born in HI, and *that* time he is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

How do they know? Because a LFBC they had formerly sworn didn’t exist suddenly exists.

They are slow-witted & gullible. Every last one of them.


161 posted on 01/24/2015 8:11:50 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; Fred Nerks
Yeah, right. Anybody who would get upset over CNN's incompetence needs to get a life.

Here we have Fred's photo of Loretta Fuddy down in the HDoH stacks:

We see that they store the paper documents bound in numbered, dated books. If you ever visited a deeds registry back in the old days, you know that's how they stored real estate deeds. You looked up buyers and sellers in the grantee / grantor index, which gave you book/page references, which you wrote down. Then off to the stacks. You pulled down the appropriate book, found the page, and took the book over to a copy machine and pumped in your nickels.

Back in the eighties, I happened to visit the Middlesex County Registry of Deeds in Cambridge, Massachusetts. There was a big room with card catalogs for the indexes and stacks of books. It was the bag-phone era, and the place was full of people chasing down documents and reporting back on their phones.

Nowadays, of course, the grantor / grantee indexes are computerized and lead to page images in a database.

Sadly, Hawaii decided to save some money and omit the page images. Instead, they entered the key birth details into a database and pronounced that a certified copy of those details would fulfill the law's requirements. That's all the short-form is: the output of a database query formatted onto expensive looking paper and stamped and signed by an official.

165 posted on 01/24/2015 8:41:04 PM PST by cynwoody
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