Posted on 01/18/2015 11:26:40 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
Lee was a fine man but is less a moral exemplar than an example of the tragedy of a good man in a bad and foolish cause. Casting the Confederacy as a noble defense of the Constitution deliberately misses the point that the South went to war to protect slavery. Instead of secession and war, the South would have been best served by remaining in the Union and bargaining for a compensated emancipation on favorable terms. Out of pride and ambition though, the South saw secession as a way to forge a new nation to protect and extend slavery.
And the Union wasn't 1861-1865? You really need to read some historical text about Lincoln's suspension of constitutional rights during that time period.
He not only never lost a battle in which he was in charge, but in those battles he completely annihilated the enemy.
Considering: (1) He lead in only 8 battles (2) His entire CW career was in the Western Theater (3) 90% of Confederate resources were in Eastern theatre.
You know, if the New York Yankees played my local high school team 8 times, they'd win 8 times. Calling a general better than Lee is laughable considering he never met the likes of Lee, Jackson, Longstreet etc.
This thread has become a revisionist love fest.
Actually it started out as a “revisionist love fest” - we’re just draggin it back to reality! ;’)
Looking at some of the responses, it is easy to see the shallowness of modern Americans.
I have seen your asinine southern hating posts for years. Everyone knows your agenda.
btw ... are a reincarnation of whiskey papa, or Non-Sequitur?
You’re not bright enough to know your own agenda much less anyone else’s. Go sit in the corner.
George Thomas never led bigger groups than what he did because the Ohio cabal of politicians and generals wanted their own State to get all the glory and Thomas was from Virginia, Thomas never wanted publicity or glory for himself, and he refused to allow himself to get promoted over someone senior to him. He was nicknamed "Slow Trot" because of his deliberate method. Others thought him "slow". However, once his plan was put into action he was fast as a Whippet.
Also, he pretty much saved the Western Theater at Chickamauga when his Corps staved off the Rebel advance...hence, "The Rock of Chickamauga".
Whatever, dumbass.
Name comes from a funny true story. Involving a desert, and a rhinoceros. You soft lipped bottom feeding, mud eating trash fish.
Lincoln saved the union from people who were willing to tear it apart so they could keep human slaves.
I accept your surrender. ;’)
I guess I missed the punch line. Hope it wasn't carnal in nature.
...and that's Mr. soft lipped bottom feeding, mud eating trash fish to you sir.
Friends, neighbors, countrymen!
Can’t we all just move to the moderate middle in order to “get things done”?
(running for cover lol)
Not hardly, numb nuts. :)
Civil War only lasted 4 years, but CW threads have been a FR mainstay even back to my lurkin’ days back in the late ‘90’s. Some of the real spirited ones have passed a 1000 posts.
I would question “The South had the moral high ground with States Rights. It was the Southern States that begged and pleaded with the Buchanan Administration to use the Army if necessary to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act in some Northern States. To join the Confederacy, you had to make slavery legal, your citizens could not decide they did not want slavery, then join the Confederacy. In 1862, the Confederate Government gave itself the authority to enter the sovereign states of the Confederacy and seize your citizens for service the Confederate Army. Also in 1862, regardless of what term of service you enlisted for in your state militia, the Confederate Government voided that contract, and your new term of service was at the pleasure of the Confederate Government. The Confederate Government ordered its respective states to not ship the 1862 cotton crop to buyers in Europe. These actions are hardly the States Rights moral high ground.
How could Lee know that, considering on April 18 Lincoln hadn't invaded anything?
Really? Lee himself said he turned it down b/c he wouldn't be able to fight against fellow Virginians.
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