Posted on 01/04/2015 6:03:18 AM PST by HomerBohn
Here’s a link to the Kapi’olani Medical Center Centennial Celebration Letter, scroll down to page six to read it: http://www.wnd.com/files/InspireMagazineSpring2009.pdf
Kapi’olani posted a copy of Obama’s letter on its website and used it for fundraising. After WorldnetDaily questioned aspects of the letter’s authenticity, the hospital removed it from its website and has kept it hidden from public view ever since.
The letter was on the Kapi’olani website for the year of 2009, the Centennial year, then it was moved to the Kapi’olani Foundation’s website.
On both sites the letter was included in the Centennial Magazine: “100 Years of Caring For Children.”
The Kapi’olani Foundation now has a new website and you are right that the Centennial Magazine containing the Obama letter is no longer there.
The letter was removed after WorldNetDaily started asking basic, reasonable questions about it. Kapi’olani was informed that to fund raise off Obama being born there was fraudulent unless he actually *was* born there. Poof; letter hidden from public view, and not fund-raised off of again.
Surely you are aware that Obama originally claimed to be born at Queen’s Medical Center. Here’s a cite for Queen’s; there are many more in addition to this one:
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/ObamaBornQueensMedical.jpg
It was a Hawaiian charter school reporter named Bennett Guira who said that Obama was born at Queen’s Hospital. In 2004 he wrote a profile of Obama’s sister Maya Soetoro-Ng.
Here’s a link:
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/obama/supreme.court/Exhibit_Charter_Schools_Rainbow_Edition_Newsletter.pdf
It was an honest mistake, Queen’s Hospital is named after Hawaii’s Queen Emma and Kapi’olani Hospital is named after Queen Kapi’olani.
The attending Obstetrician/Gynecologist who signed Obama’s birth certificate, Dr. David A Sinclair only worked at Kapi’olani, never at Queen’s, according to his wife.
Lol! So Obama’s own website, Organizing for America, contacted a Hawaiian charter school reporter and asked him where Obama was born. He said, ‘Queen’s Medical Center.’ OfA thanked him profusely and posted the info on Obama’s own website.
You Obots are a laugh riot.
Not at all retarded. She’s being ironic.
You and the rest of the public should all be that “nuts”. Obama would never have been elected, if we were all that “nuts.” Obama would have benn out on his ear after a month in office, if we and Congress and the judges were all that “nuts.” Hers is a brand of irony that apparently goes over your head.
You do realize that The Queen’s Medical Center is located in a state of the Union don’t you?
According to the book “Double Down: Game Change 2012” by Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, Obama has his souvenir birth certificate from Kapi’olani Hospital that comes with a picture of the Queen on the back cover and infant footprints on the inside.
There is a picture of that birth certificate in the book.
From the book: “Dunham had died seven years earlier, but Obama hadn’t sorted through all her things. Now, alone in his old house for just the third night since he’d become president, he started rummaging through the boxes, digging, digging, until suddenly he found it: a small, four-paneled paper booklet the world had never seen before. On the front was an ink drawing of Kapi‘olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, in Honolulu. On the back was a picture of a Hawaiian queen. On one inside page were his name, his mother’s name, and his date of birth; on the other were his infant footprints.”
Alinskyites are famous for putting out disinformation for their opposition to seize upon which the leftists can then easily disprove, thus making their opposition look inaccurate.
If Obama had been born in Kapi’onlani, his own website, Organizing for America, would not have listed Queen’s Medical Center as the hospital of his birth. You breezed past the fact that your Obot explanation for the [one of many] other source/s that cited Queen’s as the birth hospital doesn’t apply to OfA. OfA posted it because Obama said it was true.
& how desperately deep into the Obot Kool Aid do you have to be to believe in a ‘souvenir birth certificate’ that no one has ever seen? Why are you not embarrassed even to post such a silly & baseless Obama-serving talking point? Do you believe every self-serving story told by every pathological liar in the world...or just the stories told by the Liar in Chief?
I’ll still go with the Republican Governor of Hawaii who had her staff actually check what it said on the original Obama birth certificate. You can continue to go with trusting and believing the Obama campaign web site.
“I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact.” Linda Lingle, Governor of Hawaii 2002-2010
There were 226 lawsuits between 2008 and 2014 which challenged the eligibility and natural born citizenship of Obama. Not one of those lawsuits was based on Obama being born at The Queen’s Hospital and not at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
But if it floats your boat to believe that, keep on floating.
“It’s time to fish or cut bait”
Navy vernacular: “Sh!t or get off the pot” also addresses this situation.
‘But if it floats your boat to believe that, keep on floating.’
& that right there sums up much of your problem. Not by any means all of it, but much of it. I’ll get to the rest of your post—replying will be such fun—as (& if) time permits, but first this glaringly half-sad, half-hilarious comment.
One of the major reasons anti-birthers are anti-birthers is because they can neither read with comprehension nor analyze facts and evidence in the context of the larger picture. I’ve seen this with every single one of them. They read—or claim to read—birthers’ comments, and wildly misunderstand them most of the time. As for actual analysis, forget about it. If you can give me the name of one single solitary anti-birther that does even adequate, much less top notch, analysis I will apologize for this generalization. But not unless or until that name is forthcoming.
First, reading comprehension. No where did I say or suggest I believe Obama was born in Queens Medical Center. Think, NG, *think*. If I believed that, I wouldn’t be a birther. Do you actually believe I’ve been just ‘pretending’ to be a birhter all this time? Is that really your idea of analyzing data and extrapolating facts/conclusions?
Please.
Second, did you miss the entire point on purpose, or is this really the best you can do? It’s a serious question. My guess is you missed it for lack of analytical skills. Correct me if you can.
The point is the one no anti-birther can grasp. Namely, why so much *internal* confusion on Obama’s part re: his own birth narrative? It isn’t hard to put together a brief but accurate bio for a website. It isn’t difficult at all to give a similar bio to one’s own literary agent. Yet confusion, contradictions, discrepancies, issues and questions dog every aspect of Obama’s nativity tale. Just as he had no idea how many states are in the US, he had no idea even when he was born. As he approached fifty, he gave a birth date nearly two weeks off the supposed ‘real’ one. No other major political figure is unable to keep his story straight even about the day on which he was supposedly born. Only, only, only, only, only, only, ONLY Obama.
No, birthers did not force Obama to contradict every detail of his supposed nativity. We merely noticed that Obama himself has given multiple, contradictory ‘facts’ re: his birth and every other aspect of his history. When added all together, the multitudinous issues can mean but one thing: Obama is lying about his most basic birth facts.
Why would he lie about something so basic? Why would he *need* to lie? No anti-birther can analyze these questions effectively. Either their brains shut down and they spout rote drivel, or they never had much by way of brainpower to begin which, and thus nothing much to bring to the table. Either way there is no anti-birther in the world who can adequately answer those two questions. If they could, they’d be birthers.
“It’s been established, he was born here.”— Linda Lingle, Governor of Hawaii.
“A spurious claim questioning the president’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”—Rhodes v MacDonald, U.S. District Court Judge Clay D. Land
U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, September 16, 2009.
Judge Land, a George W. Bush appointee sanctioned birther attorney Orly Taitz $20,000 for wasting his time with frivolous nonsense. Dr. Taitz appealed her sanction to the Supreme Court of the United States. After Justice Clarence Thomas refused to issue an injunction against the sanction, the full Court refused to overturn it and Taitz paid the fine.
Not one of the 226 civil actions, 95 state and federal appeals or 25 petitions to SCOTUS was based on Obama possibly being born at Queen’s Hospital rather than at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital..
If anyone can find any direct quote from Barack Obama stating that he was born at Queen’s Hospital, please post it. Not a comment from a student reporter inteviewing his half sister; not a statement on an Obama campaign web site, I’m asking for a direct quote from the mouth of Barack Obama.
Something like this:
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
April 27, 2011
Remarks by the President
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room
12:48 P.M.
THE PRESIDENT: “As many of you have been briefed, we provided additional information today about the site of my birth. Now, this issue has been going on for two, two and a half years now. I think it started during the campaign. And I have to say that over the last two and a half years I have watched with bemusement, I’ve been puzzled at the degree to which this thing just kept on going. We’ve had every official in Hawaii, Democrat and Republican, every news outlet that has investigated this, confirm that, yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii, August 4, 1961, in Kapiolani Hospital.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/27/remarks-president
So you can’t answer questions re: FACTS and evidence. In fact, you run scared from such questions. That tells us all we need to know.
But if we did need to know more, the security blankets you frantically toss up in the midst of your panic tell the rest of the story. Like any good leftist, if given the choice between facts and evidence and the word of a politician, you go with the politician. Because politicians never lie. They never shade the truth. They never do the politically expedient thing. They always do the honorable thing, even if it means political devastation.
Listen, if I wanted to debate a leftist, I’d go to DU. On FR I expect to encounter conservatives. We don’t share your/leftists’ exalted view of politicians’ integrity.
As to the judges, none of them know where Obama was born. But in your desperation you don’t care. Like any other leftist, you believe judges have a super-authority/super-ability to simply *know* things. If a judge rules a certain way, the judge must be right.
Just like all those judges ruling that the Constitution was written to establish and protect homosexual marriage. They’re all right too, aren’t they, NG?
kwow = knows
I do enjoy a good Fantasywriter birther rant and I am seldom disappointed. I do have one final serious question though.
Since Fantasywriter acknowledges that neither the politicians of the Legislative branch nor the judges of the Judicial branch have shown much interest in this “issue.” What does Fantasywriter expect to happen as the seventh year of the Obama regime commences?
We now know that it will be John Boehner who would need to guide a Bill of Impeachment through the House and in the Senate, we now know that 13 Democrats would have to join with all 54 Republicans, including the RINOs to remove Obama via a Senate trial.
In civil or criminal courts, Obama’s lawyers can easily appeal up through several layers of appellate courts until the end of his second term if there were to be any court rulings against him.
It seems to me that resignation like Nixon did is the most efficacious birther strategy remaining.
‘I do enjoy a good Fantasywriter birther rant and I am seldom disappointed.’
That’s one way of saying, ‘I lost the debate.’ Not the most mature, intlligent way of saying it, but it will suffice.
I’m still looking for an anti-birther who can rationally discuss the anomalies of Obama’s own birth-related statements, etc. What I’ve seen so far boils down to two categories. One says, ‘Trust politicians and judges.’ These are the leftist/Obot anti-birthers. They fail to grasp that while they, as liberals, love big government & the judicial system, conservatives loathe both. Liberals love politicians and the court system for good reason—and conservatives detest both for even better reasons. Leftist Obots simply cannot grasp this basic fact.
Conservative anti-birthers, otoh, operate from an, ‘I’m not a stupid birther POV. That means facts and evidence don’t count; the only thing that counts is publicly distancing themselves from birther wackos. If facts and evidence ever begin to challenge this simplistic worldview, the conservative anti-birther simply screeches ‘Kenya!’ a few times. That, they believe, is the ultimate winning comeback. No matter how many problems and issues actually exist with Obama’s nativity tale, shouting ‘Kenya’ loudly enough will lay the birther issue to rest.
Missing from that approach is the most basic fact of all. The overwhelming weight of evidence supports a non-Hawaiian birth. The evidence for a Kenyan birth is not nearly as strong. There is more evidence for a Kenyan birth than for any other location, but it falls short of certitude.
For instance, I noticed recently that Jack Cashill believes Canada is the most likely birth location. His evidence is sketchy, and he admits it. Nevertheless, Canada is a possibility.
The point being, a rational, logical person must first acknowledge that the evidence for a Hawaiian birth is virtually nonexistent. Then, and only then, can the evidence be weighed with an eye toward determining where the birth actually occurred.
It would be interesting to discuss all this with an intelligent, rational anti-birther. So far, I have not found one.
Yet the ones who claim to have investigated and discovered "universe shattering evidence" haven't published such in the way the Woodward and Bernstein did. And where W&B released their information in incremental pieces as they learned it, the CCP is taking the odd position that they have to release everything at one moment.
Of course, these anomalies are themselves circumstantial evidence to suggest the CCP really doesn't have anything they feel confident will be deemed credible.
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