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Anyone doubt there is a 40 year Black war on our cops?
Dec 20, 2014 | vanity

Posted on 12/20/2014 5:00:40 PM PST by jmaroneps37

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To: Lazamataz
"We mourn the needless and horrific deaths of two police by an anti-police Muslim."

Agreed.

21 posted on 12/20/2014 6:03:28 PM PST by semaj (Nothing will change until lying becomes an extremely dangerous & expensive habit.)
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To: laplata

I read the article or letter you posted. I agree with its speculation that cops will do the minimum (or less, if they can get away with it). My sentiment is “so what?”


22 posted on 12/20/2014 6:06:56 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Lazamataz
Sorry Laz, you are ignoring the evidence.

Cop-haters are all over FR with relentless anti-cop propaganda.

I'm sure some are working for Sharpton.

23 posted on 12/20/2014 6:33:45 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Twotone
Cops are a local responsibility. If you have bad cops go take care of them and if you don't like the laws they enforce then change the laws.

The anti-cop stuff on FR is of the “Dead Cop” variety and not conservative in any way.

24 posted on 12/20/2014 6:38:20 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: jmaroneps37

The cop haters here are alive and well.

They actually search out anti-cop articles and post them,accompanied by the same 3 or 4 tedious jokes.

It’s been going on for a couple of years.

Most annoying,but they seem to get some sort of satisfaction in it. A real turn-on I guess.

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25 posted on 12/20/2014 6:47:19 PM PST by Mears
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To: donna
Sorry Laz, you are ignoring the evidence.

I would suggest maybe you are ignoring my retort and the factual basis behind it.

Cop-haters are all over FR with relentless anti-cop propaganda.

"Cop-haters" is a very subjective term. I'm sure some of my (justified) criticism of police overreach (in any of the areas I cited) might be categorized by you as "cop hating", when I have no such motivation.

26 posted on 12/20/2014 6:47:36 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: donna
Cops are a local responsibility. If you have bad cops go take care of them and if you don't like the laws they enforce then change the laws.

It's so easy to write that sentence.... and then you get to stuff any criticism of police overreach by repeating this sort of sentence.

Well, writing your sentence and implementing it are orders of magnitude different in difficulty.

Here, let me hit you with this: You don't like Obama and his Executive Order tyranny, right?

"Well, go take care of Obama and if you don't like his Executive Orders, then change the laws."

Now I can simply dismiss any of your criticisms of Obama by simply repeating that sentence.

27 posted on 12/20/2014 6:51:07 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: Lazamataz
Er, we're conservatives here - or are we cop-haters, first?

We don't want the federal government involved in local cop business, do we?

Or, is this one of those exceptions that Washington much solved for us?

Come on, you've got cops killing dogs? Go fix the problem.

28 posted on 12/20/2014 6:58:05 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna
Come on, you've got cops killing dogs? Go fix the problem.

"Come on, you've got Obama violating the Constitution? Go fix the problem."

29 posted on 12/20/2014 7:02:19 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: jmaroneps37

It’s been 40 years since a black “youth” murdered my uncle.

http://www.odmp.org/officer/14283-police-officer-travis-ed-williams


30 posted on 12/20/2014 7:03:44 PM PST by gop4lyf (Claire Wolfe called. She said the Awkward Phase is over.)
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To: Lazamataz
If you can't find a way to control your local cops then maybe you do need Obama and Al Sharpton to help you out.
31 posted on 12/20/2014 7:19:33 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna
If you can't find a way to control your local cops then maybe you do need Obama and Al Sharpton to help you out.

"Of you can't find a way to control your President then maybe you do need Russia and Europe to help you out."

See how easy it is to dismiss your concerns with meaningless, platitude-like, nearly-impossible-to-manifest sentences that you, yourself, author?

32 posted on 12/20/2014 7:28:18 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: donna

Of course, you may never ‘get it’, even when I demonstrate by analogy how meaningless and nearly-impossible-to-manifest your statements are.


33 posted on 12/20/2014 7:29:30 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: jmaroneps37; Uncle Miltie
top my surprise some here seemed to imply that cops "have it coming." Some wrote insulting comments.

I notice you provided no link to the article referred to.

I wonder why?

Could it be that there is no evidence there to support your assertion that "top my surprise some here seemed to imply that cops "have it coming." Some wrote insulting comments."?

The closest you can come to that is Uncle Miltie, who posted factual evidence which you disagreed with.

34 posted on 12/20/2014 7:48:47 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Lazamataz
Okay, okay, you win.

We can't control Obama so we can't control local cops.

We are free to hate them all.

Only Al Sharpton can save us.

35 posted on 12/20/2014 7:53:11 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna
Okay, okay, you win.

Logic and analogy usually does.

We can't control Obama so we can't control local cops.

Oh, see? I called it. I predicted you wouldn't 'get it', and sure enough you didn't.

I demonstrated (apparently effectively) that your dismissal of anyone's concerns about police was nearly impossible to implement (as are my counters about Obama), yet somehow you smugly assumed it was a winning dismissal.

It is not. People have valid concerns about a rapidly-militarizing, detached-from-the-public, overly aggressive and overreaching police, and your casual dismissal of those concerns ("Go fix it") is no more realistic than my retort of "Go fix Obama".

I predict you still will not 'get it'.

We are free to hate them all.

No ma'am. We are free to disparage, however, those police that disregard the Constitution. We are free to criticize those police who view all citizens as 'perps that have not yet been caught'. We are free to be concerned about police that show up in military gear, with military personal equipment and military tactics, for a police job. We are free to be upset about those police who shoot dogs without justification and nearly without provocation. We are free to become enraged at police who, instead of serving a simple warrant, exercise 'dynamic entry' and SWAT tactics when such actions are clearly not justified.

Also, we are free to be pleased with those cops who do not do any of the above. We are free to mourn good cops who are gunned down by criminals.

See, you exhibit all the signs of a binary thinker. Either we must love all police, or we must hate all police, seems to be your view. I do not share that view.

Again: I predict you still will not 'get it'.

36 posted on 12/20/2014 8:05:42 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: Ghost of JV; All
Before I get started I just wanted to say that I am an American first and foremost of dual heritage ( not a Black American, or whatever you call them). I think I understand what your trying to say but America will always be the homeland for me and my family, I was born here, I have family who served in the armed forces and in Afghanistan, also I am proud of the freedoms that I have here, and that's the way it going to be like it or not, thus I have no urge to ask my family to give up rights and property they own to go to an ancient land just because. I however can agree as a person who had a family member just retire from being a cop for 20 years that most cops are good people, it is just the bad ones that need to be dealt with, and while I am vocal on bad cops I can be vocal on these so called ghetto “hoods” made of mostly black folks who I hate to say it prove that the KKK was right about them, and that the ghetto culture is an ass nine culture that has destroyed so many.
37 posted on 12/20/2014 8:10:18 PM PST by the_individual2014
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To: the_individual2014
Suggestion: I would request that your comment be pulled by hitting the 'Abuse' link on yourself. Too close to racism, and you are too new here for much leeway.

You could probably repost the comment by phrasing it more delicately. You are not entirely off base on your premise, you just should reword it. For example: Do not hold the KKK up as a good critique of black culture, because they are not. They were ignorantly against all blacks, no matter their behavior. We are against BEHAVIORS, not races.

38 posted on 12/20/2014 8:20:31 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: the_individual2014
"so called ghetto “hoods” made of mostly black folks who I hate to say it prove that the KKK was right about them..."

Exactly what was the KKK right about?


39 posted on 12/20/2014 8:25:21 PM PST by semaj (Nothing will change until lying becomes an extremely dangerous & expensive habit.)
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To: Lazamataz

Like there’s something to get.


40 posted on 12/20/2014 8:27:15 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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