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To: ConservingFreedom
It's orders of magnitude closer to success than drug criminalization

It is exactly the same level of success. It has managed to keep it tamped down to a low level, say around ~2% which it has been for the last 100 years or so.

and laws against murder don't put billions of dollars in profits in criminal hands.

You think so? I think laws against murder are pretty much the only thing keeping people like Bill Gates alive against the wishes of all the Windows users out there.

No, laws against murder protect billionaires even more than other people.

68 posted on 12/18/2014 2:09:32 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Glad you asked - according to the FBI, two-thirds of murder cases get solved. What percentage of drug 'crimes' do you reckon even get detected ... 2 in 3000 maybe?

But we are still having murders. Is that a failure or a success?

It's orders of magnitude closer to success than drug criminalization

It is exactly the same level of success. It has managed to keep it tamped down to a low level, say around ~2%

You're one quarter of the way to supporting your claim - now you need fact-based numbers for the current level of murders and the levels murder and drug crimes would reach absent the laws against them. In the meantime, the numbers I've noted weigh against "the same level of success."

and laws against murder don't put billions of dollars in profits in criminal hands.

You think so? I think laws against murder are pretty much the only thing keeping people like Bill Gates alive against the wishes of all the Windows users out there.

No, laws against murder protect billionaires even more than other people.

Protecting billionaires has nothing to do with putting billions of dollars in profits in criminal hands.

76 posted on 12/18/2014 2:22:23 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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