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Details of Bear Spray/Handgun Defense case in Glacier Park
Gun Watch ^ | 16 October, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/16/2014 1:51:37 PM PDT by marktwain

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One shot from a .357.
1 posted on 10/16/2014 1:51:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I love my Colt Python Stainless 6”!


2 posted on 10/16/2014 1:54:13 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Darteaus94025

Are you Rick Grimes?!?


3 posted on 10/16/2014 1:55:34 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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The bear was apparently stunned, because it had left the area by the time rangers examined the scene. one shot just stunned the bear?
4 posted on 10/16/2014 1:56:21 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: marktwain
One shot from a .357.

...Wasn't enough to do the job.

The bear was apparently stunned, because it had left the area by the time rangers examined the scene.

5 posted on 10/16/2014 1:56:24 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: marktwain

Stunned the bear, which later left the scene.


6 posted on 10/16/2014 1:56:33 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: marktwain

I thought he must have shot him straight on the nose, but then I read the part the bear being stunned and having left later. I wonder where he hit him?


7 posted on 10/16/2014 1:56:58 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Yo-Yo

The job was to stop the attack. It worked.


8 posted on 10/16/2014 1:57:40 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain; SunkenCiv; Nachum; EODGUY; Mr. T

But, you see, according to Obala’s federal government bureaucrats, it is illegal to discharge a handgun in a federally-designated natural park area!

(It is, however, apparently legal for a person to be eaten alive by a bear inside a federally-designated natural park area. However, it would also be illegal for a fat person to provide more than the Michelle’s federally-designated maximum-allowed calories per day to that bear inside a federally-designated natural park area ....)


9 posted on 10/16/2014 2:00:03 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: marktwain

In 1980 I backpacked in Glacier for a week. At that time, one could apply for two-week gun permit to carry in the park. The application was filled out by hand, sent by postal service and arrived back in about a week, with approval. I have it around here somewhere...


10 posted on 10/16/2014 2:00:11 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: marktwain

I’m glad the gentleman was well-prepared. I’ve read a lot on bear spray, visited sites selling it and stores and used pepper spray once myself. It’s interesting that the spray was not enough against the bear.

This is an interesting story because it seems to say a gun or pepper spray by themselves was not enough.


11 posted on 10/16/2014 2:03:18 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Hugin

I suspect two possibilities.

One, he hit the bear between the eyes, and the shot knocked the bear out without penetrating the skull. Bear skulls look a lot like a skid plate when viewed from the front.

Look at the bear skull at this link, and you can see that if the shot hit the bear between the eyes, but above the nose, the angle is very shallow.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/10/maneater-of-boundary-waters-canoe-area.html

Two, the shot hit a glancing blow to the spine, which momentarily paralysed the bear.


12 posted on 10/16/2014 2:03:53 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Supposedly, when you hike, you should have bells or something and that keeps wildlife away. I think that does work. Does it work always? I don’t know.


13 posted on 10/16/2014 2:04:19 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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The “studies” hyping bear spray have some problems:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2014/10/wybear-spray-v-bullets-flaws-in-studies.html


14 posted on 10/16/2014 2:06:41 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: BeadCounter

It would be my luck that the bear liked spicy food.


15 posted on 10/16/2014 2:06:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: 1Old Pro

John “Pondoro” Taylor designed a system of measuring big game rifles effectiveness based on a “Knock Out Value” of what it would take to incapacitate an animal such as an elephant.

Bullet weight in grains x bullet diameter (decimal inches) x velocity (FPS) / 7000 = KOV

That said, a KOV of 12 for a 158 grain bullet at 1400 FPS is pretty feeble for a grizzly.

This dude was lucky.


16 posted on 10/16/2014 2:07:56 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..

If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.


17 posted on 10/16/2014 2:08:46 PM PDT by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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To: BeadCounter
"This is an interesting story because it seems to say a gun or pepper spray by themselves was not enough."


18 posted on 10/16/2014 2:09:59 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Personally, I would have emptied my Python into the grizzly, reloaded and continued shooting with every round I had at my disposal. Of course I’d probably be making little rocks out of big rocks for doing so, but a grizzly bear is not an animal to trifle with.

I wonder if charges would have been brought if the hiker had shot the grizzly while it was attacking a bald eagle???

EODGUY


19 posted on 10/16/2014 2:10:35 PM PDT by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: marktwain
You're probably right. If you compare a bears skull to it's head, it's very deceptive, because there is 3-4" of fat, hide and fur above the skull. Very easy to shoot one in the head and not hit anything vital.


20 posted on 10/16/2014 2:10:48 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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