Posted on 10/01/2014 1:03:45 PM PDT by Chuckmorse
Sorry, not to belabor my point, but we see this line about how black Americans "really are" trotted out all the time. I won't believe it until I see proof at the polls. Until then, it is no more true than "Islam is a peaceful religion."
Yeah, there are lies and there are damn lies. That there is a damn lie.
My father was a WWII GI, center-right on all the issues of the day. He was a Sam Nunn/Scoop Jackson Democrat, but he would never ever have voted GOP: to him it was the party of the Potters (as in It's a Wonderful Life), the rich Rockefellers, and most importantly, Tricky Dick, whom he hated with a passion from before the time I was born ('54). He thought of himself as poor even when he was middle-class professional, because he had grown up poor in OK in the Depression, and only the Democrats cared about the poor. Like many of his generation, he agreed with Reagan on everything, but he still couldn't make himself vote anything but straight-down-the-line Democrat, all the way until he died in '96.
That's exactly how non-thug, non-welfare blacks are. They think they know "black history" but they don't know squat, and there is no well-funded organization (there's the John Langston forum, but who's ever heard of them) to get past the progressive DuBoisian drivel that passes for "black history" in every community, black or white. They think only Democrats care about black people, and Barack Obama was their JFK--except that unlike JFK, who got martyred before his shine turned to rust, Obama is still rusting, and it is getting to the point that even the average non-thug non-welfare black is beginning to cringe at the Obama name.
It will take a generation of blacks not educated in what passes for public schools to break the spell, but it can be done, and as the public schools collapse, it will be done. I was born the day the Supreme Court handed down its ruling in Brown v. Board of Education; I hope I live long enough to see it, but if I don't, my children will. I have the same dream as someone else once did, and I'm a whitey.
I was born in 39 and raised in upstate NY in an Irish Catholic family and ‘all’ would probably have been considered ‘good’ Democrats.
Not sure if they would be in line with today’s Liberals but they were definitely ‘D’ to the core with my Grandfather (mailcarrier for 45+ years) ‘complaining’ of my going in the Navy while that SOB Ike (R) was in office.
And Ike could just as easily have run as a D if he thought that was where he was needed.
I was Right leaning all along and I guess us ‘young Catholics in late 50’s and early 60’s’ that leaned toward R’s were much the same as the Blacks of today that lean towards Conservatism.
My take on the manufacturing flight out of New England to the South was it was a result of taxes, Unions and the such.
The D’s and Unions had people convinced it was the Rich Republicans that moved their business South as a matter of greed.
In some ways the moving of manufacturing out of the country is no different that the move from the North - with the main exception being the tax money stayed here.
You can imagine the ostracization I was put through when I wasn’t a JFK backer, guess the only saving grace I had was I spent most of my time out of the Country during his tenure.
Wrong. Most of the black "Middle Class" is a chimera created by Affirmative Action either with government jobs or via laws that dictate to corporations who they must hire.
Most of these supposed middle class blacks are placed in jobs they are not qualified for or in jobs created just for blacks to make quotas while the rest of the workforce must compensate.
These blacks hold no real middle class values as seen by their children being allowed to become thugs. I live in the DC area and watched how this has drawn out over the past few decades as I worked within and outside of the government and corporations in this area.
I agree with you that things can change -- over time. For me, the proof that "change" has occured, definitively, for black Americans is when it's reflected in the vote. Otherwise, for all practical purposes, it doesn't matter how "conservative, patriotic and religious" they are. I.e., if they keep it to themselves, it's wasted. I would also argue that the socialists' agenda of overwhelming us with Mexicans and South Americans is going to make black Americans' political voice rendered moot in very short order.
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