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Kevin and Tony. Criminal trespass.
Charting Course ^ | 8/12/14 | Steve Berman

Posted on 08/12/2014 5:37:04 PM PDT by lifeofgrace

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Winning at all costs, costs a lot
1 posted on 08/12/2014 5:37:04 PM PDT by lifeofgrace
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To: lifeofgrace

Tony is ruthless, just like Dale Earnhardt Sr and look what happened to him. I have no doubt Tony COULD HAVE avoided hitting Kevin if he wanted to.


2 posted on 08/12/2014 5:45:30 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: lifeofgrace

Didn’t see any video, but for my part, I don’t/won’t walk in to traffic moving on a slippery track with cars going “x” mph. Was the young man angry at Stewart? Did he feel like he needed to confront/call out a “major” racer? Sadly, poor judgement can get you killed. Prayers to Mr. Wards family and to Mr. Stewart for bearing the weight of what happened.


3 posted on 08/12/2014 5:47:28 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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Much testosterone and adrenaline on the track.
Easy to understand how this stuff can happen.


4 posted on 08/12/2014 5:49:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: lifeofgrace

“winning at all costs” didn’t cause this. Getting out of the car and jumping in front of traffic did.


5 posted on 08/12/2014 5:54:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: lifeofgrace

Lots of adrenaline in a race and after a crash. I can see wanting to get out of the car, and I can see having the adrenaline to carry it out. But there is no common sense in walking on a race track with a bunch of speeding cars - it’s like walking on the freeway.


6 posted on 08/12/2014 6:02:11 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I finally watched the video. If Ward had been standing there and been hit, I might agree. But he was moving aggressively into traffic.


7 posted on 08/12/2014 6:03:54 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: lifeofgrace

Seems like a lib argument that could just as well apply to football.

Make life too safe, and more and more people do riskier and riskier things. Leftists want to channel all that machismo into a violent revolution.


8 posted on 08/12/2014 6:08:00 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: lifeofgrace

Good Read,
thanks,,,


9 posted on 08/12/2014 6:10:37 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: lifeofgrace
I’m glad I haven’t watched it, and I don’t intend to.

For someone who hasn't watched the film, at least up to moment of impact, you have expressed way too much opinion. If you take the time to watch it, you'll see Kevin get out of a car where he's safe and start charging toward the inside of the track where the traffic is looking for Tony so he could take him and his car on. He nearly gets hit by the car ahead of Tony's and then he charged right at the side of Tony's car like he was going stick his fist in the side opening and prove something. Hard to believe you found so much to write about without even watching what happened...What if the car ahead of Tony had hit him instead? Should that guy be brought up on charges? Watch it! It's like watching a dog chase cars on the interstate. The only way Tony could have avoided him would have been to get off the track instead of going another lap. That wasn't winning at all costs, it was paying the ultimate price for proving you don't belong there.

10 posted on 08/12/2014 6:16:34 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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11 posted on 08/12/2014 6:25:51 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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I have no doubt Tony COULD HAVE avoided hitting Kevin if he wanted to.

And I think you're wrong.

12 posted on 08/12/2014 6:28:04 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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” But there is no common sense in walking on a race track “

Especially when the guy that just intentionally put you into the wall is coming around the track again


13 posted on 08/12/2014 6:29:50 PM PDT by Figment
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There is a time and place for everything.

One does not let emotion get the best of you. Mr. Ward could have settled this behind the stadium in private with Tony. Like the old ways. Instead we have this. Some bizarre form of road rage on a crowed race track in the dark.

14 posted on 08/12/2014 6:46:40 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: lifeofgrace

Darwin won again...

Heck, we tell children not to play on a busy freeway. ..


15 posted on 08/12/2014 6:55:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: driftdiver
Most of the article was about living with it, regardless of whether the kid was 100% at fault or not.

How will Stewart live with knowing that it was his car, under his control, that hit Ward?

-PJ

16 posted on 08/12/2014 7:16:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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17 posted on 08/12/2014 7:27:07 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
I have no doubt Tony COULD HAVE avoided hitting Kevin if he wanted to.

Have you ever driven a sprint car on dirt? Have you ever driven any vehicle fast on dirt? Do you have any idea what a car with slicks handles like at 50 mph on wet dirt?

Sprint cars are designed to turn left and have the rear end slide out to the right.

Approaching one from the upper side of the track is a really bad idea, because just about any action the driver of the car takes pushes the back end of the car out to the right.

18 posted on 08/12/2014 7:29:06 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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"no doubt Tony COULD HAVE avoided hitting Kevin if he wanted to."

I don't think so. The more I look at what went on and think about the history of these two drivers, I am coming to the conclusion that the young buck was out to make a name from himself. His first mistake seems to have caused him going into the wall and the second cost him his life.

This animated video claims that Stewart pushed Ward into the wall. But, in the animation and other real footage it looks like it was Ward who came down into Stewart's line, maybe to block him, and mistimed or misjudged his position. The video points out vision is impeded by wind spoilers on sprint cars. What it doesn't mention is where a driver's eyes are trained when they are negotiating turns.

Later in the same video a claim is made that Stewart is heard accelerating "before" the impact with Ward.

However, this video seems to show that although Stewart's view was obstructed (and Ward was wearing black on a shadowed track) he may have seen him at the last second and tried to swerve. That move which could him to break traction and jump in rpm coincides with the appearance of Ward at his right front, not as he approaches him.

The more I think about a young driver with an aggressive reputation having the opportunity to take down one of the greats in the sport, also with an aggressive reputation, I have a hard time trying to accept Stewart as being at fault in any way.

19 posted on 08/12/2014 7:48:49 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: lifeofgrace

this is bs. you are an idiot if you run across a track with these cars coming at you, especially around a curved area. warning lap or not. it didn’t help hjis uniform was black and it was a night race either, harder to see him out there when you’re trying to watch the cars around you.

ward is dead b/c he exited his car and was charging around the track. i can undestand being pissed. i’d have saved charging the other guy, if necessary, after the race was done.


20 posted on 08/12/2014 8:12:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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