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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is stupid. Bacteria reproduce by the billions under constant adaptational stress. There ARE bacteria resistant to this attack. They WILL survive and reproduce.


4 posted on 06/18/2014 7:09:57 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Yup.


5 posted on 06/18/2014 7:26:57 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Talisker
This is stupid.

The study and new methods are not stupid. What would be stupid would be if we killed the 'good' bacteria.

Bacteria reproduce by the billions under constant adaptational stress.

High speed micro-evolution.

There ARE bacteria resistant to this attack. They WILL survive and reproduce.

Pretty smart little buggers, aren't they?

Whatever we do to interfere with their ability to survive, they will adapt to. Although we must (and fairly well do) control them to an extent, without bacteria and viruses, we could not live.

All life on Earth is dependent on death and destruction.

This new 'discovery' may give us a temporary ability to control certain bacteria. Which is a very good thing.

That it will not work perfectly on every type of bacterial cell, or forever, is expected.

10 posted on 06/18/2014 7:47:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Talisker

Yup. They can adapt to any single stress.

The key is an antibiotic cocktail. If one in a million is resistant to “A”, one in a million is resistant to “B” and one in a million is resistant to “C”, how many are resistant to A+B+C?

1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000, a number so large it exceeds the National Debt, a fraction so small that most people have never even heard of a quintillionth by name.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 6:22:40 AM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: Talisker

And no one factors in the good bacteria from the bad, they just kill it all.

As a female, every time I was put on antibiotics I developed yeast infections. Finally found that taking 50 billion Probiotics multi strain, stopped it. Yogurt is a waste of money.

I listen to the ads on TV, and they pick and chose what they disclose. Nexium just went OTC at the 20 mg dose, what the ad leaves out is that long term use can lead to Bone Density issues, and Barrett’s Esophagus Nexium
Bone density side effects, and Barret’s Esophagus
http://www.valleyhealthcancercenter.com/Cancer-Services/Barretts-Esophagus - GERD treatment Upper GI every 2 yrs biopsy.

Lyrica actually mimics the Fibromyalgia it is being touted for; and sex life good bye if you react to it along with the high weight gain like you get from being on Predisone to long. Besides it is highly addictive.
Lyrica anti-epileptic http://www.rxlist.com/lyrica-side-effects-drug-center.htm

Often used beside Lyrica.

Gabapentin Side Effects http://www.rxlist.com/neurontin-side-effects-drug-center.htm

To the regret of many patients put on them. OP drugs are dangerous. They have a FDA warning doctors are ignoring. How many have to die of kidney failure, jaw degeneration and develop A FIB before they are removed from the market?

My PCP and ENDO are pushing for this crap. Foreto which reverses itself at the end of the treatment period. Already had a bad reaction to Fosamax sample. Made 5 days with terrible bone pain. Went in the trash. I chose to do Holistic s with Vitamins and minerals bones are made out of. Never heard of one of them killing patients. And with Bone Density test now MANDATED at every 2 yrs, same as PSA’s for men I won’t know how well it works until 2015.

OP DRUGS

FDA ALERT RECLAST higher risk of Kidney Failure and A Fib.
http://www.natap.org/2011/newsUpdates/090911_03.htm

Reclast UPS kidney failure, A FIB risk.
http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/news/20110901/fda-osteoporsis-drug_ups-kidney-failure-risk

Safety update for osteoporosis drugs, bisphosphonates, and atypical fractures
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/drugsafetypodcasts/ucm229800.htm

Black box warning Foreto
http://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/forteo-black-box-warning-and-fda-testimony/

Damaged Care
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/02/health/health052102.htm

First do No HARM
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-superhuman-mind/201212/first-do-no-harm

Lorenzo’s oil
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/lorenzos-oil/

The Ketogenic Diet Works; A Mom Reflects on the Success
http://epilepsymoms.com/blog/complimentary-alternative-therapies/ketogenic-diet-works-mom-reflects.html

http://www.myelin.org/lorenzosoil/lorenzosoiltheoil.html


17 posted on 06/19/2014 6:45:52 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Talisker

Yes, but might peg them back for a while.


24 posted on 06/20/2014 5:11:18 PM PDT by Vanders9
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