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To: dignitasnews

I’m sorry - but, when you decide to operate a “fee-for-service” business in the public arena, you must serve everyone.

However, you do have a choice - provide the service, or close the business. It is black letter law.

In the example in the article - it would work both ways for both the heterosexual and the homosexual.

Otherwise, it would be akin to refusing to serve blacks at the lunch counter ...


5 posted on 05/30/2014 11:23:21 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56
Did you miss that the couple didn't just want ANY cake, they wanted a custom cake?

If I owned a bakery I wouldn't make a cake with a swastika on it either.

Sure you are required to serve black people at your Woolworth's but you shouldn't be forced to make something custom made, if it's not on the menu no matter how much it was "demanded".

Gimme an ice cream cone with 8 scoops!

Sorry, we don't make those.

You HAVE to, I'm black!

I can offer you a triple scoop cone, any flavors.

Not good enough, I'm suing!

6 posted on 05/30/2014 11:41:13 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: Lmo56
I’m sorry - but, when you decide to operate a “fee-for-service” business in the public arena, you must serve everyone.

Bullshit. You wouldn't have to serve the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi Party. Hell, I'll bet you wouldn't have to serve the Tea party, and if you were muslim, you wouldn't have to serve homos.

Some animals are more equal than others.

7 posted on 05/30/2014 11:43:09 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Lmo56

Otherwise, it would be akin to refusing to serve blacks at the lunch counter ...
Not even close. The people who refused blacks at their lunch counters could not cite Biblical or constitutional reasons.


11 posted on 05/30/2014 11:52:37 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Lmo56

Tell that to the Muzzie cab drivers who refuse to drive customers with alcohol.


13 posted on 05/30/2014 11:54:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lmo56
I’m sorry - but, when you decide to operate a “fee-for-service” business in the public arena, you must serve everyone.

What is namely the service? Too provide a cake? Or to provide a "wedding cake" ? I think there is a distinction. In the second case the question naturally presents itself, "What is a wedding?"

19 posted on 05/31/2014 12:25:35 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Lmo56

That’s just it, businesses do not serve everyone. Your lefty local rag is under no obligation to print conservative letters to the editor or even sell ad space to conservatives.

And it will never go both ways. A business that refused to do business with Christians will never face a problem


21 posted on 05/31/2014 12:33:42 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Lmo56

>> I’m sorry - but, when you decide ...

You do realize it’s okay to take a stand on principle, right?

The moral challenges won’t go away by searching for justifications to grant exceptions. This is not about discriminating against the color of one’s skin.


39 posted on 05/31/2014 1:30:03 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Lmo56

Actually, you don’t have to close the business. You simply drop wedding cakes from your list of services. You can sell many more birthday cakes, cookies and cupcakes than wedding cakes anyway.


41 posted on 05/31/2014 2:40:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Lmo56
It's not a question of refusing to serve someone...it's making something (customized) that violates the store's owner's conscience. Would you demand that a print shop run by Jews print Nazi literature? Jewish bakers made to bake cakes with swastikas and a picture of Hitler? Black bakers forced to bake cakes for the Klan complete with a a picture of a black man dangling from a noose?

The baker didn't refuse to serve homosexuals....he undoubtedly has served thousands. He just refused to bake a specific type of cake.

47 posted on 05/31/2014 5:05:41 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Lmo56

There’s a point where, and the article makes this clear, where normal business operations cross the line into “art”, which is a form of protected expression.

Run of the mill baked goods don’t really cross that line. Specialties such as wedding cakes do. The baker has every Constitutional right to refuse to produce art that he disagrees with. To compel him do so is both a violation of the 1st Amendment AND the 13th’s prohibition on involuntary servitude.


67 posted on 05/31/2014 7:59:03 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Lmo56

Had he refused them service in general, that is one thing. He said he would sell them anything else, he just balked at the “custom order.” You seemed to miss the point. So, Ill pose you the question.....should a gay printer be forced to take and order to create a 100 foot banner that says “Homosexuality is a sin before God.” Should a black painter be forced to accept a contract to paint a portrait of a KKK leader? That is the point.

I dont see this so much as a gay/straight issue, rather as a matter of the state dictating the work that a craftsman must accept.


69 posted on 05/31/2014 10:00:30 AM PDT by dignitasnews
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