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To: servo1969

kellerman is a big anti, who made a career of doing research papers that show firearms are bad.

however, a few simple things will show that a firearm does not cause mayhem, death and destruction.

first, nics checks background checks done before a firearm is sold, to make ensure a criminal (felon) is not sold a firearm. some states have their own sytems, so their numbers will not show up in an nics check. also, a nics check may not necessarily represent a new firearm sale, it could be for a used firearm, or even some are things as government/police employment checks, I have heard.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/1998_2014_monthly_yearly_totals-040514.pdf
in 2013, 21 Million nics checks were done. if you say only 1/3 were new firearms, that is 7 million more firearms on the streets in 1 year.

From 2004-2113, 137,148,000 (roughly) nics checks were done. if 1/3 were new firearms, that is 45,259,000 new firearms “on the streets”.

From the fbi uniform crime report summary for 2012, on murder, we have

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/violent-crime/murder

“In 2012, an estimated 14,827 persons were murdered in the United States. This was a 1.1 percent increase from the 2011 estimate, but a 9.9 percent decrease from the 2008 figure, and a 10.3 percent drop from the number in 2003.”

45 million more guns, and less murders...

also, the definition of children applies to teens, up to age 18 or 19,

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_2_murder_victims_by_age_sex_and_race_2012.xls

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_9_murder_victims_by_age_by_weapon_2012.xls

of 1101 victims under age 18, 563 were killed by firearms. 193 were beat to death by hands, feet, etc.

note here,
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_13_murder_circumstances_by_sex_of_victim_2012.xls

that 720 were involved in juvenile gang killings.

the myth of if you have a firearm, you will be morelikely killed by a family member or someone you know - definition of someone you know is an acquaintance, like, you know that kid that always hangs around the corner, acquainted with, as opposed to stranger.

see this table relationship between offender and victim.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_10_murder_circumstances_by_relationship_2012.xls

of 12765 murders, 749 were by blood/family relations, 2714 acquaitances, 1004 by friend/significant other. 1557 complete stranger, 5757 unknown.

adding acquaitance significantly makes it seem more intimate, even if it was the drug dealer down the street

facts and statistics make it hard to argue, but for anti firearms people, “feelings” trump all sense or logic


19 posted on 05/29/2014 8:07:45 PM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: backpacker_c

edit note - the last part about relationship between murder victim and offender was off - it isn’t broken down by firearms only. you have to also look at this table

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_11_murder_circumstances_by_weapon_2012.xls

to get an idea of the percentage of each circumstance was related to firearms


20 posted on 05/29/2014 9:05:35 PM PDT by backpacker_c
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