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To: achilles2000
The only effective course of action for the short term is 1. remove children from government schools, 2. cut the cable/satellite, but keep your broadband, and 3. elect Constitutional conservatives to city and county governments, and especially to the positions that control the guns and courts. This is something that can actually be done, unlike fanciful plans for fixing DC. Nothing is going to stop the coming civil unrest because there is no prospect at all of doing what needs to be done on spending, etc. at the national level. SS and Medicare/Medicaid alone will consume the budget and cause a collapse of the dollar. People would be far better off starting locally to get control and then moving higher into state government than pursuing Levin’s idea.When the unrest comes, controlling local and state governments will be paramount.

Respectfully, let's examine your points (which are all great ideas, btw).

1. remove children from government schools,

Many states are trying at the local levels. But Carter started the Education Department and took some control. Then all the presidents that followed took more control. Then Bush started No Child Left behind and now they are pushing Common Core. The states are starting Charter Schools, voucher systems, etc. to give their citizens a way out. But states took from the Garden of Eden when they became dependent on the Fed for Education Funding. To accomplish your goal we need to get rid of all teacher's (actually government) unions and abolish the Department of Education. A Convention of States seems easier.

2. cut the cable/satellite, but keep your broadband

I would hate to think that we would limit freedom in this way "for the good of the nation". It sounds a bit tyrannical.

3. elect Constitutional conservatives to city and county governments, and especially to the positions that control the guns and courts.

This is happening now. Look at Wisconsin and Michigan. Many states are becoming "redder" (more red?). BUT, as liberals flee their own carnage for places like Nevada, Arizona and Texas, their virus is also spreading and turning red areas purple. The entire idea behind the Convention of States is to take control back from the Fed at the state and local levels. (I don't understand the "positions that controls guns and courts" part, however).

Nothing is going to stop the coming civil unrest because there is no prospect at all of doing what needs to be done on spending, etc. at the national level.

The proposed amendments are to correct this, driven by the states. The civil unrest you speak of assumes that the fed must some day quit sending checks. FRiend, that is so far off that you and I will both be long dead. We can milk this cow and print money for many decades to come as we continue down this long slow fall. But by then, we will have cultivated a generation that is apathetic and unwilling or at least unaware of their plight. This is what has happened in Europe. The ME can't be driven to freedom for the same reason. The slaves (peasants) don't know any better and have no aspirations for individual liberty and freedom. We may be the last of a dying breed already.

121 posted on 05/13/2014 10:32:10 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Tenacious 1

1. Children can be removed now, and serious parents are doing it by the thousands. There is no reason at all to wait on all the things you mentioned, unless someone expects government welfare education to continue in some form. The government school model is an evil mistake and is unreformable.

2. Limit freedom? No one is requiring this, but serious conservatives should be willing to quit tithing to the left and the sodomites immediately. That cable/satellite is an open sewer running into living rooms.

3. It isn’t really happening anywhere, not even in Texas. People view politics like they do sports. National level politics is seen as being the “Major Leagues” and state-wide races are seen like triple A ball. No one EXCEPT the sodomites and feminists pay any serious attention to races far down ballot.

Levin’s plan has some good substantive points, but it is like a Ryan Budget plan. It isn’t radical enough; it entrenches things that shouldn’t be continued (i.e. the administrative state); and, it won’t be enacted. Electing a sheriff or a county judge is infinitely easier, and no one needs anyone else’s permission or cooperation the rescue their children from government schools or to cut the cable.


150 posted on 05/13/2014 2:05:09 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Tenacious 1

One more thing...a financial reckoning is not far off. I don’t mean it will occur tomorrow or next year, but within 5-10 years at the most our government will be in a position of the worst of the PIIGS. The bond markets will not lend to us except at rates that will eat the budget. Printing money won’t help because at that point confidence in the dollar will have disappeared (any confidence today is misplaced), setting off a significant inflation and an catastrophic economic downturn. It isn’t necessary for checks to stop entirely for civil unrest to result. All that’s needed is a significant decrease in buying power and attempts to reign in “social spending” or to reduce the bureaucracy. Moreover, the civil unrest probably will start regionally because the problem is not merely national. State and local governments in most places have made unperformable promises. They can’t print money, and you are going to see more municipal bankruptcies and even states needing massive financial restructuring (there is no bankruptcy provision in the Code for state bankruptcies).

The financial situation is far worse than you imagine, and most conservatives wouldn’t support doing the right things because almost all love their little piece of the welfare pie.

I like Levin and his passion. His analysis of problems is generally excellent. But, like some other people that I admire, he has the “lawyer’s disease” - if only we pass the right laws things will turn around. The corruption is in the hearts of the people. Without destroying the government school establishment by removing our children (the system can’t stand the financial stress or the public delegitimation that would cause) and defunding the MSM by cutting the cable/satellite, we are finished. We will just be swatting flies instead of draining the swamp. All that the left has to do is wait for this generation of semi-conservative to pass from the scene, and the great mass of voters will consist of drones thoroughly conditioned by gramsian Marxism.


153 posted on 05/13/2014 2:23:47 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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