I know I risk provoking your anger, but perhaps I need to be educated. I am a PASSIONATE gun owner and 2nd Amendment Supporter, however, if I am arrested for, or repeatedly investigated for threatening my Wife or Family, I feel that I actually SHOULD forfeit my 2nd Amendment Rights, at LEAST while the case is adjudicated through the normal channels. The article refers to what they infer is an isolated “tragic case” where a documented abuser apparently used his weapon. At least in my area, it’s not unusual at all. When I verbally defend my RIGHT to bear arms to others, I always predicate the argument with the statement that I am a “responsible, law abiding citizen”. Can we say the same about someone who is repeatedly the subject of 911 calls for domestic violence?
So the constitution means nothing to you? Vis:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
So if you call the police repeatedly on your neighbor, claiming that he stole your tools and the gas from your car, are we to confiscate his automobile until everything is cleared up to the government's satisfaction? So you don't know any women who would call the police on their husband or boyfriend so as to get him in trouble, put him in jail or settle an argument? Because I sure do, and I'll bet most of the people on this site can say the same thing. How far do you want to go with this? Do you want to lose your property, your means of self-defense or your liberty on the "say-so" of another person with due process? Because that's what you're asking for. No wonder people like Andrew Cuomo, Michael Bloomberg and Bill de Blasio get elected there.
The only thing one can say for sure about someone repeatedly the subject of 911 calls for domestic violence, is that one of two has accused the other of violence. Men and women are human and make stupid choices in marriage. Women are empowered (so are men against women) by being able to involve the force of government -- government is a FORCE -- to get whoever she's mad at in extra-deep trouble even if he hasn't done a thing. Men the same for women, for that matter.
Frankly, the government has very little place in dictating to the residents of such a household whether or not they have the right to have guns on the premises. How much is the Federal government mixed up in this, with requirements involving 911 response? I don't know; perhaps not at all. Regardless, only when a crime is committed with a gun by the member of the household should it even be discussed, IMO.
I am done voting "against" statists by voting for another statist. Voting "against" is spitting into the wind.
I want a candidate who has a DIRECTION, the general direction of Less Government Everywhere. That's what I'll vote FOR. I don't care what party he or she is in.
I agree that abusers are dangerous and probably shouldn’t have guns but then what do we do when they simply get guns somewhere else?
I think the problem is that it’s the domino effect, first the abuser, then the gun show where he got another weapon, then the “unregistered” guns they can’t account for and on and on.
The truth is, if an abuser wants to hurt his victim, he will.