Report: Ebola Suspected In Europe: “Broken Through All Containment Efforts”

SHTF Plan ^ | 4/20/14

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Yer always so screwed. So, what else is new?

[Lazamataz]

But this time I mean it.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Are you sure you’re at the right place?

[palmer]

It said it travels by "touch", not just blood products although that would certainly do it, too, as well as any other bodily fluid.

There is not a lot of evidence that ebola virus transmits easily (e.g. by touch) because certain primate populations would all be dead (while others carry but are immune). However, is possible that it spreads through insect bites. You may be correct about other bodily fluids, but from the little bit I have read, that transmission path appears to be difficult, the virus dies easily.

[palmer]

"Other than in samples grossly contaminated with blood, EBOV was not found by any method on environmental surfaces and by RT-PCR on the skin of only 1 patient".

See http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/196/Supplement_2/S142.full

[palmer]

I do not know how long the virus remains viable on surfaces.

See link in my previous post.

[Smokin' Joe]

Thanks for posting that.

[HamiltonJay]

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/ebola-fever-virus-infection

“People often get sick with Ebola when they care for or bury a person who has the disease. Someone also can catch the virus by touching contaminated needles or surfaces.”

[Marcella]

“You may be correct about other bodily fluids, but from the little bit I have read, that transmission path appears to be difficult, the virus dies easily.”

As you will see below, there are five various types of Ebola. The latest information on this outbreak is what I posted earlier, that touch appears to be a way to get it. If someone with it, touches “x”, and you touch “x”, you may get the transfer of the virus. Sure, there is a time limit of the virus being active, but you wouldn’t know how long ago an infected person touched “x”.

Say you’re in an airport and go to the bathroom which most every person who gets off a plane, does as soon as they see a bathroom. You go in that bathroom after they leave, and you touch what they touched, and you get it. The movie, “Contagion”, shows how easy it is to get a deadly disease from travel.

I read the update today from WHO, and it’s sad that some health care workers get/got it and most of them who got it, died. Somewhere in their care of these people, they missed some precaution they should have taken, and got it. Those caretakers are braver than I am - I couldn’t do it.

This is from WHO:
Genus Ebolavirus is one of three members of the Filoviridae family (filovirus), along with genus Marburgvirus and genus Cuevavirus. Genus Ebolavirus comprises five distinct species: Bundibugyo ebolavirus (BDBV); Zaire ebolavirus (EBOV); Reston ebolavirus (RESTV); Sudan ebolavirus (SUDV); and Taï Forest ebolavirus (TAFV). BDBV, EBOV, and SUDV have been associated with large EVD outbreaks in Africa, whereas RESTV and TAFV have not. Samples taken from patients in this outbreak have tested positive for EBOV.

[palmer]

As Marcella points out there are five types of the virus. EBOV does not appear to spread through contaminated surfaces.

[palmer]

Samples taken from patients in this outbreak have tested positive for EBOV.

In my link in 125, the EBOV variety does not appear to spread by contaminated surfaces. Obviously one study is not the end-all, but if you have another study that says otherwise, please post it.

[steve86]

“Are you sure you’re at the right place?”

See the middle paragraph in #120.

Also ran an emergency supply business for 2 1/2 years.

But not gullible or impressed by sensationalism or half truths.

Or the intellectual cop-out of conspiracy theory (often correctly characterized as “schizotypal personality disorder”).

[Marcella]

"Study: Growing Guinea outbreak caused by new Ebola strain"

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/04/study-growing-guinea-outbreak-caused-new-ebola-strain

PLUS

http://www.decodedscience.com/new-ebola-virus-outbreak-west-africa-whos-danger/44820

"Ebola Outbreak in Africa:

There is no vaccine for the Ebola virus and no specific treatment for those who have the disease. Among humans, the Ebola virus is highly contagious, and spreads via various routes, including:

◾Direct contact with blood, mucus, organs, or other bodily fluids of an infected person.

◾Indirect contact with environments contaminated with fluids.

◾Men who recover can transmit the virus via their semen for up to seven weeks.

◾Direct contact with the body of someone who has died of Ebola.

The Ebola virus is a dangerous virus that continues to kill many people during each outbreak. The epidemiological investigation continues to figure out the animal source of this outbreak in Guinea."

[DuncanWaring]

Practice makes perfect.

[Shadowstrike]

Think I got off on the wrong foot with you, or maybe responded to the wrong post, hell it’s been a week.

All I meant, and I’ll try to be specific, was that in this day and age you don’t necessarily throw the baby out with the bath water.

There are alot of things happening in this old world that isn’t being reported as it should be.

Guy might be a total nutjob, but it pays to take things with a grain of salt.

Suppose they’re right? Hell, you can’t get the main stream media to report the truth on Bundy in Nevada.

Hope I’m clearer than I was, this is what happens when an old timer has to many darned Windows open at one time.

Apologies if I made a mistake.

[RitchieAprile]

what if the locals object to being nuked? I guess they don’t have a choice in your world...