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To: editor-surveyor

The Rapture of the Church is not the Resurrection! It is the “alive in Christ” joining the “already dead in Christ” in the air. Since the timing of the Last Days is pretty well set after the breaking of the First Seal, i.e. the revelation of the Anti-Christ, the only way that the day and the hour can be unknown to all but the Father is for it to happen before the First Seal is broken.

However, as I said before, believe what you want to believe. I take comfort in these words.

Matthew 24 (New King James Version)
No One Knows the Day or Hour

36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,[e] but My Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,
39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour[f] your Lord is coming.
43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.
44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

1 Thessalonians 4 (New King James Version)
The Comfort of Christ’s Coming

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.[b]
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.


61 posted on 04/02/2014 10:02:48 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SubMareener
...."For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.... And the dead in Christ will rise first..... Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up 'together with them' in the clouds 'to meet the Lord in the air'. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.... Therefore comfort one another with these words.......


63 posted on 04/02/2014 11:47:40 PM PDT by caww
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...."For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.... And the dead in Christ will rise first..... Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up 'together with them' in the clouds 'to meet the Lord in the air'. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.... Therefore comfort one another with these words.......


64 posted on 04/02/2014 11:47:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: SubMareener

I don’t know why you don’t understand this simple fact, but yes the Resurrection and the rapture are one and the same.

Paul told us that the resurrection of those that sleep will come first, but it is still the same event, at the last trump. The scriptures that you post disprove your position completely.

Are you inviting strong delusion? - I’m not joking; if we wish to believe the lie, we will be allowed to believe it.

There is absolutely not one word in scripture to support what you profess to believe. You say that you “take comfort” in the very scriptures that demolish your belief.

1Thessalonians 4 plainly says that the resurrection of those that sleep is first, then those that are alive and remain, so how can it be backwards of that?

And in 1corinthians 15 Paul clearly says that it is at the last trump. How can you draw another conclusion from that? Do you hear world wide blasts of the angels shofar every day? Have you even heard one?

He told the Thessalonians that the “man of sin” MUST first be revealed; has he been revealed standing on the holy place? Until that happens, the resurrection can’t.

There are only two resurrections: One at the end of the trib, for his elect, and the one at the end of the millennial reign for those that are lost.

Can you find a scripture that calls for any other?
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66 posted on 04/03/2014 8:35:40 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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