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To: CpnHook

Yes, I have essentially run out of patience with Arpaio and Zullo and Gallups and Gillar. Moreover, I teeter on the edge of losing ALL hope that ANY substantial new evidence will emerge about Obama’s identity-related deception before 2017.

However, as that malaise begins to set in with me, it has not yet been enough to dissuade me from my conclusion that Team Obama has perpetrated despicable crimes of fraud against the American people with appalling success. Particularly, I cannot come up with any lens through which to view the Hawaii Department of Health that would cast an innocent light upon their actions with respect to Obama’s birth certificate.

In short, if all the HDOH ever had about the birth and life of Barack Obama amounted to exactly everything he ever wanted us to know they had, no more no less, then I am quite convinced that Campaign Headquarters and the Hawaiian government could have come up with a much more satisfying way to convincingly disclose everything much, much sooner and more transparently than they did.

In my mind, even if Savannah Guthrie saw and touched a raised seal on a document that looks just like the pdf released by the White House, and even if the innocent combination of Mac Preview and a Xerox WorkCentre scan is alone sufficient to explain every alleged anomaly in the layered digital file, I think we are still left utterly without a means to explain the years of delaying, dodging, posturing, self-contradiction, rules changing, blame shifting and obfuscating that continually hang as a dark cloud over every step Hawaiian officials have taken regarding their presumed documentation of Mr. Obama.

So for now, I’m content to harbor a yet glimmer of hope in my mind that one day someone, somewhere will somehow nestle his pry bar into just the right crevice that will yield leverage enough to bring the stone wall crashing down. But, I can be honest enough to admit that most conspiracy theorists never get to see any walls crumble, and if my proverbial wall persists long enough on this issue, I will eventually face conceding that the wall was never more than a mere figment of my imprudent conjecture.


61 posted on 04/15/2014 12:48:17 PM PDT by ecinkc (Hopeless birther on the verge of finally realizing it's time to find a new hobby.)
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To: ecinkc
However, as that malaise begins to set in with me, it has not yet been enough to dissuade me from my conclusion that Team Obama has perpetrated despicable crimes of fraud against the American people with appalling success.

But if the issue is his birthplace/eligibility, then one would have to conclude "Team Obama" was at work quite literally from the moment of his birth. If there's been some grand conspiracy at work, then it spans five decades and of necessity would involve countless persons all of whom have kept this under wraps. I find that implausible.

In short, if all the HDOH ever had about the birth and life of Barack Obama amounted to exactly everything he ever wanted us to know they had, no more no less, then I am quite convinced that Campaign Headquarters and the Hawaiian government could have come up with a much more satisfying way to convincingly disclose everything much, much sooner and more transparently than they did.

The usual way of producing birth information is for the person to get a certificate (usually the "short form" abstract) and present that. That is what was done initially in 2008. Though this case presented the complication that it wasn't just for a single person or agency to receive, but potentially for hundreds or even a million interested viewers. The only way to do that is by proxy (e.g., a FactCheck.org or Savannah Guthrie type) or to scan it and put it online. But doing that is what invited the cynicism and suspicions in both 2008 and 2012.

In my mind, even if Savannah Guthrie saw and touched a raised seal on a document that looks just like the pdf released by the White House, and even if the innocent combination of Mac Preview and a Xerox WorkCentre scan is alone sufficient to explain every alleged anomaly in the layered digital file, I think we are still left utterly without a means to explain the years of delaying, dodging, posturing, self-contradiction, rules changing, blame shifting and obfuscating that continually hang as a dark cloud over every step Hawaiian officials have taken regarding their presumed documentation of Mr. Obama.

It's not that hard to explain: the initial efforts to answer the question were met with skepticism and likely both "Team Obama" and the State of Hawaii got annoyed and a bit passive-aggressive.

But, I can be honest enough to admit that most conspiracy theorists never get to see any walls crumble

One of the data points I've asked about to others explain is the 1968 Indonesian school application:

So here one can note Obama's mother and stepfather putting down "Honolulu -- 4-8-61" as his place and date of birth. If BHO II had actually been born somewhere else, wouldn't it have been easier for them to note the actual birthplace? (I would think a Muslim country would look more askance at someone born in the U.S. than, say, Kenya.) What possible motivation would they have had for putting down Honolulu if that were not actually his birthplace?

In light of evidence like this, what exactly is "the conspiracy" you hope unravels some day?

63 posted on 04/21/2014 10:16:25 AM PDT by CpnHook
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