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To: SeekAndFind

I think that a young guy should have a craft and then turn it into a degree.

Apprentice as a pipe fitter in the mechanical and HVAC trades. Learn about control systems as you do your apprenticeship. Work on construction jobs at good money and then get a mechanical engineering degree between projects and with night classes and web classes.

You can be a highly paid craft worker, a highly paid design engineer and the right combination to own and run your own business.

We are never going to not need new and repaired heating and cooling systems.


2 posted on 03/30/2014 6:47:56 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: KC Burke

Ha! Great minds!


4 posted on 03/30/2014 6:57:47 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: KC Burke

You are so right about heating/cooling ...it’s a great trade to learn.

For many, college is a waste of cash and time. The sad thing is most people think if someone does not have a degree they are not worth hiring.

The bulk of what I have learned came to me after I got my degrees.


6 posted on 03/30/2014 6:59:45 PM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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To: KC Burke
And trades can't be outsourced! Try calling a plumber in India and see how much service you get.

Myself...unless I had a ton of scholarships, I would think about it twice. Get a trade...then work your way thru college. I can't imagine starting life $50,000 (or more) in debt.

8 posted on 03/30/2014 7:00:54 PM PDT by berdie
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To: KC Burke

That is outstanding advice! HVAC might be a good field for a young person who doesn’t want to sweat too much yet not adverse to moving around. Their primary job is to make sure people aren’t too hot and not too cold, including themselves.

And, as you said, understanding control systems is a valuable skill, including, but not limited to HVAC.


20 posted on 03/30/2014 7:32:50 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: KC Burke

Not a bad idea but let me inject a little bit of reality that makes any engineering program a challenge as a part-time adult student. At a minimum, you have to go into it knowing the choices to be made to successfully complete the program.

The biggest hurdle occurs in the senior year and is known as the senior capstone project. This is at least a one-semester undertaking, sometimes two semesters. The student project groups work with people in industry on real projects that require real solutions. This means you will have to attend meetings and conduct project work on regular business hours. This can be a hurdle for students that have daytime jobs while attending evening classes. Thus, the need to be aware of choices that students will have to make to succeed in the program. It’s not impossible for a focused and dedicated student but they should go into the process with their eyes open.


25 posted on 03/30/2014 8:01:01 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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