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To: Lurking Libertarian

“UPDATE 3/16: Apparently the temporary restraining order obtained by Ares Armor was revised to include a clause to “not restrain lawful criminal proceedings”. So, I guess the ATF considers breaking into a business and stealing its computers and records is a “lawful criminal proceeding”. I guess the people who bought the lowers in question can expect some kind of contact from the ATF. Fun times.”

I took the above off the Guns Saves Lives blog.

Apparently last week the BATFE raided EP Armory to get their cusotmer list as well.

Its called illegal de facto gun registration. There is no law anymore. There is no constitution anymore. Its whatever the jackboot government says it is.


99 posted on 03/16/2014 8:23:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
“UPDATE 3/16: Apparently the temporary restraining order obtained by Ares Armor was revised to include a clause to “not restrain lawful criminal proceedings”.

I was wondering why no one posted the restraining order. Now I know.

So, I guess the ATF considers breaking into a business and stealing its computers and records is a “lawful criminal proceeding”.

If they had a search warrant that specifically listed the computers and records, it was presumptively lawful. I say "if" because no one has posted the warrant (just as no one has posted the restraining order). And I say "presumptively," because even a warrant is unlawful if the affidavit used to get it was knowingly false.

Ares has copies of the restraining order and the warrant (and possibly the affidavit-- it is typically served with the warrant). If they posted them there would be a lot less speculation on this thread.

102 posted on 03/16/2014 10:24:51 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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