[itsahoot]

then they need to say what those values are

There in lies the rub.

On this forum it appears to be...Libertarianism/Humanism vs Conservationism/Christianity. I choose the latter.

I don't see any other way to pair these philosophies though some may argue the case for a Conservative Humanist but I think a true marriage of the two would be extremely rare and highly vulnerable to divorce.

[stanne]

Ok. But Cruz did say what the values were

This is just a verbal trap

But it’s easy. Read the statement in context. If that doesn’t state the values then there is no one who can state values

This is simply propaganda and poorly executed

Anti Cruz. It’s all over every Cruz thread. They don’t want what they ask for/demand. They want demoralization

It’s easy. Just look at Cruz’ original statement and forget convincing the antis they’re gone