[itsahoot]

or worse, destroying good allies like what we once had in Egypt.

That would be the Democrats that did that, not Cruz. Same for Iran, good old Jimmuh.

[Mariner]

"That would be the Democrats that did that, not Cruz"

Same goes for Kosovo.

Still, they did so under the pretension that they were defending our values.

I'd like to see these talk a lot more about defending our hard, critical INTERESTS.

If they are going to speak of defending our values then they need to say what those values are, how they would defend them and how that relates to our interests.

For instance, one could easily make the case that defending our values of open and free elections and constitutional democracy would dictate that we were right to depose Mubarak in Egypt. He was a dictator that did not tolerate dissent.

But it was in our best INTERESTS to support him. Same with the Serbs.

I want to know how the GOP primary candidates see that mix. For some reason none want to get specific on this life, and death matter.

It's up to all of us as the primaries approach, or the pre-primaries we're in now, to insist they address the mix.

At least in the abstract.