To: Seizethecarp
1. UW/UH transcripts have SADO in Russian class in the Fall of 1960.
So? I don't see your point. I don't contend that she did not attend that class, I believe that she was pregnant while attending that course.
2. INS FOIA docs in April 1961 had a U of H official informing INS that BHO Sr. has impregnated and married Stanley Ann Dunham (she is named) and that SAD is contemplating giving the baby up for adoption with the Salvation Army.
This information was aquired by either talking to Obama Sr, or an official from UofH contacting the INS. Assume SAD gave birth in March, and at that time Jr's citizenship problem is known. By April her parents very easily could have requested the help of Sr in claiming fatherhood. They also could have gone to the UofH and reported that their daughter was pregnant by Sr. This could have been done to further bolster their claim that Sr was the father of SAD's baby.
3. INS FOIA docs in August 1961 have SAD living with her parents and Baby BHO II being born and the mother planning to attend university in WA in the Fall of 1961. An early Aug. 1961 birth (wherever) would imply an early Nov. 1960 conception at a time when SAD was in Russian class at UH, not in Chicago.
Like #2, this information was aquired through Sr, it is what he told them, and they had no reason to dispute it, and simply wrote down whay he said. The INS documents stated that IF Sr tried to use the child/marriage to his benefit, then they should investigate. He never did, so they never did - explains why Sr, even when facing deportation, and fighting to get his visa extended, never played the child card - in Hawaii the INS told him that would lead to an investigation.
4. The 1961 Polk in HI has SAD at the same address with her parents and as reported in the newspaper birth announcements that are not admissible as evidence of birth location (and might be but havent yet been proved in court to be forged).
Polk got their data by data mining public records, and phone surveys. If the Dunhams were planning on registering a home birth in August of 61, I don't thing they would be going around telling people that Stanley had moved back to Seattle. My guess is that people around the Dunhams heard - "oh Stanley Ann? She's out with her friends now." - alot.
88 posted on
02/21/2014 12:46:47 PM PST by
MMaschin
To: MMaschin
“Like #2, this information was aquired through Sr, it is what he told them, and they had no reason to dispute it, and simply wrote down whay he said. The INS documents stated that IF Sr tried to use the child/marriage to his benefit, then they should investigate.”
My take on the INS FOIA docs is that the investigators filling out the forms were trying to get a record of various claims about BHO Sr. without always properly sourcing those claims. Some forms are partially filled out by BHO Sr. and completed in another hand or supplemented with notes. It is not at all clear where the additional information comes from whether it was from BHO Sr. or from follow-up calls to UH or Havard officials.
I don’t read the UH or INS officials questioning whether BHO Sr. fathered BHO II. I see them as questioning whether there was a sham marriage, given his prior record of having a Kenyan wife. A sham marriage to gain a green card is illegal and always on the radar of the INS (to this day) whereas impregnating a co-ed and entering into a bigamous was not (could not justify expulsion of a foreign student)! In other words, it was only illegal if BHO Sr. had tried to use the marriage for a green card.
91 posted on
02/21/2014 1:10:15 PM PST by
Seizethecarp
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To: MMaschin
Polk got their data by data mining public records...
Yeah, right. ;-)
I believe that she was pregnant while attending that course.
You happen to have a photo?
93 posted on
02/21/2014 1:34:08 PM PST by
Brown Deer
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