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To: editor-surveyor; Cynical; metmom; boatbums

...”The freedom in Christ is derived from obedience to his Torah”...

No, it’s not......The Old Testament Covenant was never intended ‘to be permanent.....

... Jesus used two examples in a parable to show the new is NOT to be joined with the old”

“No one puts a piece from a new garment on an old one; otherwise the new makes a tear, and also the piece that was taken out of the new does not match the old”...Luke 5:36

“In that He says...”a New Covenant”... He has made the first one obsolete.”........Heb.8:13

Paul describes the Mosaic covenant in 2 Cor.3: 7,11,13:

The HOLY SPIRIT tells us (the law).....is “passing away” and is “abolished” .... in its place we have the “ministry of the Spirit” and “he ministry of righteousness” ...(v. 8,9)

Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it.... To have it put aside.... If continued it would become much the worse, even for the purpose for which it was intended.....

.... Jesus did not come to ‘patch up Judaism’,... he came to fulfill it by His life, teaching, death, and resurrection,.. not to patch up the old.

Jesus’ purpose was expanded beyond Israel, to ALL man kind through His spirit, something that could never be done under the old administration of the law.

“And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined..... “But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved.....

.... The old wineskins were stretched out to their limit and any more fermentation would burst them. To try and mix the old (law) with the new (gospel) would destroy both.

You are not saved by Jesus plus Moses, neither is one sanctified by Jesus plus Moses. ......

..... “And no one, having drunk old wine, immediately desires new; for he says, ‘The old is better. ”

Once the wineskin was used and stretched it could not be stretched more, it was useless and a new wineskin was needed.

The Pharisees held on to the old law but those who found Christ to be their all in all found life in the new, they left the old for the new.


433 posted on 02/12/2014 8:43:37 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

You’ve gotten so far from the word that there is no point in using up FR’s bandwidth on you.


435 posted on 02/12/2014 8:46:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: caww

>> “You are not saved by Jesus plus Moses, neither is one sanctified by Jesus plus Moses.” <<

.
Have you ever read Deuteronomy 18?

Therein Moses prophesies that another prophet would come that we must listen to, that would preach the same laws. That prophet was of course Yeshua.


437 posted on 02/12/2014 8:53:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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