We shall have to disagree Roamer...... I’m really not interested in who I’m closer to in what I believe. Rood or Messianic Jews.... It is ‘sufficient’ I know whom I’ve believed in and HE is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto him against that day.
Additionally.... I’m not looking to line up with groups attempting to unite the various faiths....regardless of what motives they use to do so.
At issue are the false and misleading teachings Rood spews and that these rob people of knowing Salvation through the Biblical Jesus Christ.....HE’s on another path and one Jesus warns of throughout Scripture.
It doesn’t matter from whatever side of the aisle they may oppose Rood... other than he’s known to be a liar and a fraud....that should tell anyone he is not to be believed nor relied on for the truth no matter if Messianic, Christian, or even without faith.
Additionally...I am very much aware of what is happening among the Protestant and Evangelicals today and it’s not good, rather an infiltration within the churches....none are exempt and too many are failing to see their condition as it is.
Look...we’re in a time where the enemy of mens souls is setting the stage for his entrance....one of the conditions is a falling away of the true faith...we are seeing that everywhere today. People seek “something” else apart and or mixed with the Gospel Message and many are taking the bait that’s given.
The bible teaches us there is only ‘one foundation’ we can build on, that is Jesus Christ.
You are right to say Roods teachings will continue without Rood, they were here before Rood.......... If we take Buddha out of Buddhism it goes on. ...One can practice Buddhism divorced from its founder......If Krishna is removed from Hinduism the teachings and the techniques continue. .....One can practice Islam without Mohammed being alive.
BUT...... if we take ‘Jesus Christ’ out of Christianity, which Rood does.... it crumbles............. Because Christianity is based upon a ‘person and His work done on the cross’, not our work.
Well said.
Right - What I am saying is that you tend to endorse Messianic Jews, while excoriating 'Hebrew Roots' or 'Christian Messianics',for wont of a better term, when the Hebrew Roots Messianics are closer to you doctrinally than the Messianic Jews - It is the inconsistency that I am pointing out, albeit that, like most Protestants/Evangelicals, that inconsistency is usually based in ignorance.
Additionally.... I’m not looking to line up with groups attempting to unite the various faiths....regardless of what motives they use to do so.
Neither am I, although I will point out that the prophets can be read in a way that predicts not an ecumenicism, but a union of Christianity and Judaism in Yeshua's hand - That can only be true if both drop their traditions.
At issue are the false and misleading teachings Rood spews and that these rob people of knowing Salvation through the Biblical Jesus Christ.....HE’s on another path and one Jesus warns of throughout Scripture.
I have listened to a lot of his schtick, and no doubt, much more than you - I haven't found very much that is questionable. What he has done is a lot of hard work that tends to prove the Messianic point of view. For instance, I have for a long time known the significance of YHWH's Holy Days, but as a goy, I could not understand, nor were Jews particularly informative - Rood has done much for me in filling out the meaning of the Holy Days - The purpose and function of them.
It doesn’t matter from whatever side of the aisle they may oppose Rood... other than he’s known to be a liar and a fraud....that should tell anyone he is not to be believed nor relied on for the truth no matter if Messianic, Christian, or even without faith.
I know how all the fraud accusations finally turned out - So i can reject your characterization. As to the 'liar' bit, quite a bit of that is soundbites of misspent words, or outright nonsense by self-righteous mouth breathers. Most of it is defensible. Where it isn't it can be largely attributed to his penchant for exaggeration and bombastic nature.
Additionally...I am very much aware of what is happening among the Protestant and Evangelicals today and it’s not good, rather an infiltration within the churches....none are exempt and too many are failing to see their condition as it is.
It is my contention that the 'falling away' happened long ago. What we have been seeing, division after division, ever more permissive, is the predictable result of the original falling away. Without Torah IS lawlessness, by definition. When citizens have no regard for the law...
Look...we’re in a time where the enemy of mens souls is setting the stage for his entrance....one of the conditions is a falling away of the true faith...we are seeing that everywhere today. People seek “something” else apart and or mixed with the Gospel Message and many are taking the bait that’s given.
Your misgivings aside, those here follow Yeshua - He said, after all, to do and teach the Torah - Every commandment that He spoke is what we are to follow - HE is the example.
The bible teaches us there is only ‘one foundation’ we can build on, that is Jesus Christ.
Then how can I go wrong by listening to what He said?
You are right to say Roods teachings will continue without Rood, they were here before Rood.......... If we take Buddha out of Buddhism it goes on. ...One can practice Buddhism divorced from its founder......If Krishna is removed from Hinduism the teachings and the techniques continue. .....One can practice Islam without Mohammed being alive.
You misunderstand my point - Bhudda, Krishna, and Mohammed ARE founders. Rood is not the founder of the Messianics. Rood is just another preacher.
BUT...... if we take ‘Jesus Christ’ out of Christianity, which Rood does.... it crumbles............. Because Christianity is based upon a ‘person and His work done on the cross’, not our work.
There is not a single Messianic that I have EVER run into that promotes works. Salvation IS Yeshua (That is HIS NAME), and they ALL know that.