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To: Fred Nerks

One place not on that list, that should be, is Chicago. SAD spent the summer of the 1960, in Chicago when working as an au pair. If Malcom X was the father, my money would be on Chicago as the place of conception.


150 posted on 02/03/2014 9:02:56 PM PST by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin

Why is Dreams a definitive source of info on the au pair job when Dreams is considered a pack of lies/unreliable everywhere else? There is no independent corroboration of the au pair job. It’s probably just another Dreams’ creation/lie, most likely b/c Ayers wanted to mention Black Orpheus.


151 posted on 02/03/2014 9:26:44 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: MMaschin

The biggest stumbling block is the fact that so very few people even attempt to grasp that Stanley Ann Dunham wasn’t his mother, at most, she was his nanny who ended up with him after he became an embarrassment to the royals in Jakarta with whom he had been living. Stanley Ann appears to have gone to live in Indonesia not long after she married Lolo in March 1965, and two years later, according to LIA (who died suddenly) Stanley Ann went somewhere to pick him up, she told Lia she would be bringing back a brother for her.

Go by the fake image of him at kindergarten and the letter from the U of HI and what are you looking at? A probable photshop of his image and some dates gratis Alice Dewey, who visited Stanley Ann in the palace in the seventies, who says that both children were brought up there...which might explain why zero told his Punahou classmates he was an Indonesian Prince and would be going back there...

Find out when he left Hawaii. Find out who he lived with in the palace. Find out how his name was changed to Soebarkah. Why he was sent back to hawaii on his own. Why Catholic Family Services apparently took charge of him and why there had to be a court hearing with the presence of the kenyan student to sort out the mess of who his parents might have been.
Ask yourself how she was granted custody of a child supposedly named after a man she never married, because she wasn’t in Hawaii, until she showed up with zero in 1963.

Have you had a good look at her? At the age of 18 in 1960 not even the black Luo would have been smitten, had she crossed his path. Malcolm had serious marriage difficulties, as attested by the long letter he wrote to Elijah Mohammad in 1959, but I doubt that even if he was locked up with her in the same room, it would have crossed his mind...

Not after meeting a beautiful young arab girl during his trips to the Middle East in 1959. He actually spent more time out of the US than in it...between 1959 and February 1965. Maraniss wrote that both he and Betty had affairs.

If that child is who he appears to resemble, Stanley Ann Dunham would have been the last contender for motherhood. IMO.


152 posted on 02/03/2014 9:41:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (WHO)
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To: MMaschin

It might be of interest to note that Charles T Payne, the brother of Madelyn Dunham was Deputy Director of the Library at the University of Chicago from after he finished his studies on the GI Bill after WW2 up until his retirement in the late nineties.
He was still there when zero lectured in law at the university.
And Melanie, his wife, was in the seventies, on a committee with the wife of David Axelrod. They all lived in Hyde Park.

When it was included in ‘Dreams’ that she obtained an EARLY acceptance to attend the University of Chicago, didn’t it make anyone wonder why the heck she would want to attend a university in Chicago?

Why was that included in the ‘Dreams’ narrative? Might it have been because the author and the main protagonist feared there might still remain some trace of her time in Chicago?

Like maybe that’s where she spent the final year of high school...because there’s no way we could ever find a trace of her graduation on Mercer Island.


153 posted on 02/03/2014 9:51:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (WHO)
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To: MMaschin

Slight correction is in order..in the book, the words put into her mouth are ‘I was only sixteen then’ - and that makes it 1958/1959. She was born in November 1942, and Black Orpheus was released in the US in December 1959.


155 posted on 02/03/2014 10:10:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (WHO)
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