Posted on 01/27/2014 10:57:01 AM PST by onyx
Over the last several days, conservatives across social media have been circulating an image, a split screen cut and paste of Obama and Mohammed (Pak) Subud along with a link to a very well thought out piece from Jason Kissner at American Thinker.
That piece brings several Coincidences to light.
When it comes to politics and Obamas past, there are no such things as coincidences.
Kissner shows links between Obamas mother Stanley Ann Dunham to a certain Subud spiritual cult and also documents the verifiable link between the Subud cult and one Loretta Fuddy.
Fuddy, you will remember, was the woman who had been appointed in January, 2011, to head the agency in Hawaii that verified Obamas birth certificate The one he finally, after years of questions, displayed to the world in March of 2011.
Fuddy also was the lone non-survivor of a small plane crash off the coast of Hawaii just a couple of months ago.
No coincidences Remember?
The idea being promoted is that this Mohammad Subud, the founder of the Subud cult, is Obamas real father but, before we get to that, there IS something regarding that split-screen image you should know.
It is a composite.
According to Adrien Nash who wrote an article yesterday, I copied and reversed Subuds eye and replaced Obamas which was squinting.
A composite/split-screen that makes the 2 look more like each other than they otherwise might is not only the wrong way to highlight the visual similarities but, it is completely unnecessary.
The speculation is and, lets remember, when it comes to Obamas past we MUST speculate as his official past has been completely buried, that this Subud fathered the man we know as Barack Hussein Obama.
For the speculation to be true, one must assume that in 1960, Subud and Stanley Ann Dunham met, somewhere, and he, got her, pregnant thus leading to a child who would, after several name changes Barack Hussein Obama, Barack Obama, Barry Obama, Steven Dunham , Barry Soetoro and the name first noticed back in 2011 regarding an application for a passport extension filed by Stanley Ann Soetoro in 1968.
THAT name was found in the section for either including or exempting a childs name from the passport and the name she placed THERE before crossing it out was, Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah)
Soebarkah, is has been suggested, is a combination name Soe (from Soetoro, Obamas adoptive father) Bar (from the Islamic Aramic meaning, SON) and Kah (which roughly translates from Indonesian as was or, in some cases, in names is used to denote a QUESTION regarding WHO?)
It has also been suggested Soebarkah was a name provided by the Subud cult as Loretta Fuddy went by the Subud name of “Deliana” Fuddy.
Either way, it does nothing to either verify or debunk Pak Subud as being Obamas real father.
What I am about to propose is speculation and, at first glance, seems pretty far out there but, upon consideration, may well be plausible.
There is a theory that Dunham traveled to Kenya in 1961 and it has been said that the reason for that trip was to give birth to her child and leave that child with the Obama family.
Then there is the theory that Dunham gave birth in Hawaii.
Which is true? Simply, there is no verifiable evidence for either theory but The Kenyan birth would answer those swirling questions regarding those IN Kenya, including his grandmother, who claim to have been there FOR the birth and the claims of Kenyan officials who say that Obama was born in Kenya.
Those in the Dunham family who wanted an AMERICAN son could have simply written the announcement that appeared in the Hawaiian newspaper as there was never any verification or proof of birth needed to run such an announcement whether or not he was born THERE and simply returned FROM Kenya with Dunham-Obama.
Could she have returned to Hawaii with the son because the Kenyan Obama clan refused to take him?
In 1965 or so Stanley Ann Dunham then traveled to Indonesia With her son, where she was hired to start an English language, business communications department and, where SHE recruited and hired several teachers who were MEMBERS OF SUBUD.
No Coincidences…Remember?
Consider this scenario
At some point before traveling to Indonesia, she met and was impregnated BY…Subud…NOT by Obama Sr. which would explain why Obama Sr. was never a part of Obama JR.’s life.
Could Subud had fathered a child (Soebarkah) by someone other than his wife?
Subud, before his spiritual epiphany was a Muslim and we are all aware of the monogamous fidelity of that ideology not to mention the dubious history of such strength of character in cult leaders Especially in those who feel kinship with the Almighty.
What to do?
Since the teenage Dunham was sexually promiscuous anyway…Simply claim the child wasn’t HIS and she would then assume it belonged to someone ELSE…In this case…Obama Sr.
However, several years later, Dunham-Obama would have had to notice that her son looked nothing like the man she THOUGHT was the father and, the OTHER man she knew she had been with at the same time was…Subud…Living in Indonesia.
Is there any better explanation for why this young woman, with no ties to that country, would go to live there?
That would also explain how Barack Hussein Obama, adopted IN Indonesia by the INDONESIAN LOLO SOETORO, was able to attend school IN Indonesia as his records indicated, with Indonesian citizenship.
He was Indonesian all along.
It would also account for the attempted name inclusion on the passport extension application with Soebarkah, in parentheses, then crossed out.
Such a theory, speculative, as we must speculate where no verifiable evidence is available, also would go a long ways toward covering the whole fraudulent birth certificate issue as a child, born in Kenya, would not HAVE a Hawaiian birth certificate and who better to authenticate the forged certificate that Loretta DELIANA Fuddy A woman who WAS the CHAIRWOMAN OF SUBUD USA FROM 2006 UNTIL 2008 IN SEATTLE???
A woman who may MAY Have known the TRUTH regarding the son of Stanley Ann Dunham-Obama-Soetoro.
Was the Obama we know today…REALLY FATHERED BY AN INDONESIAN, FORMER MUSLIM AND FOUNDER OF A SPIRITUAL CULT??
QUITE POSSIBLY BORN IN KENYA…TO A MOTHER TOO YOUNG TO LEGALLY TRANSFER U.S. CITIZENSHIP???
WHO ATTENDED SCHOOL IN INDONESIA AS AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN WITH NO RECORD OF EVER BECOMING A UNITED STATES CITIZEN????
Well That is exactly what those who took Obama from a Community Organizer to the white house clearly wouldnt want known.
Isnt it?
By spending millions of dollars, a mere pittance to the people who buried his past, they found a man who held no underlying allegiance to the United States and a man whose ideology was the same as their own.
In order to “fundamentally transform” the United States…They needed a SOCIALIST…NOT an AMERICAN who would become their willing puppet, doing what he was told, reading from their teleprompter text, a Muslim who would befriend our enemies while turning his back on our allies.
And Obama himself must have known all along as all the records pertaining to his past would not have been buried without his knowledge.
Who paid for his pricey Ivy League education? Saudis with no connection to him or the wealthy Indonesian leader of a spiritual movement who DIDN’T want to be connected to him, as hush payments?
Obama has never been conflicted because he was half WHITE…He, as a young man, was conflicted because he WASN’T half BLACK as, being BLACK in America during those college years would clearly have afforded Obama some entitlements.
And while, in this day and age, it can never be said for certain that pictures dont lie but They have and always will say 1000 words.
Now you tell me Who is more likely to be the father of the current occupant of the oval office
Barack Obama SR?
Or
Mohammed (Pak) Subud???
Hey…Barack Hussein Obama…Barack Obama…Barry Obama…Steven Dunham…Barry Soetoro…Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah)…
Who’s your daddy now???
And I posted a link to that very same letter, so instead of getting your input from outside sources, why don’t you read it? The letter was written in 1959, and he managed to get her pregnant six times before he was killed in 1965.
That means she was pregnant for 4 and a half years of their marriage.
They had ‘trouble’ but that didn’t stop her producing six children.
I have formed the habit of not addressing you
That is a very good habit. I encourage it.
I say IMHO Obama=S. Ann Dunham + FMD.
Don't get me wrong, I understand your difficulty, but you know what they say about changing horses in mid-stream...
That’s ok, I’ve finished what I needed to say, you were on the verge of setting fatima up for one of your endless ping pong arguments, and I have a sense she might not have had the experience before, whereas I have.
Reads like a letter Obama would write about Michelle.Moral of story-never put anything in writing it lives forever.He was turned off and didn’t want sex with her.Can’t believe he wrote this.thanks.
In case you didn’t see this link originally, it details some of Malcolm X’s homosexual exploits:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1406254/posts
later reading
You’ve made an error, Fred Nerks. You are attributing a statement by Freeper Exmil_UK to me. That person said it, not me. He/she said it in comment #153.
I never said that Obama looks like Frank Marshall Davis, except for the curious small raised vertical line skin on his upper lip.
Well I owe you a sincere apology then, don’t I? Consider it said. Sorry. Now about that upper lip...
bkmk
Uh...I did not say Subud was Os father...my pics were comparisons of O and Malcolm X....which is more likely considering the hair. There was some alteration of the photo halved with O and Subud, which did not seem right.
I do think that the younger pic of Subud and O have real facial similarities, but he looks more like Malcolm X to me. I think Obama SR was paid to be the public father figure, and the pic of Stanley Armour Dunham shaking his hand at the Hawaii airport when he arrived in US for the first time shows an association previous to his daughter’s involvement with O SR.
I have never thought Frank Marshall Davis was anything but a communist friend to a communist family (Dunham’s).
Interesting, thanks, and I won’t ask where you got it.
yes the similarities could not be more clear.
Thanks for the Link!
Sure stirred up the “who screwed who” debate, might make a good one for Soap. Does nothing for the DNA can kicking.
LOLOL.
You’re right.
Is that LOLO hanging on Stanley’s back?
Bunch of stuff here; the feds had a whole dossier on the guy:
http://vault.fbi.gov/search?b_start:int=0&SearchableText=Malcolm%20x
Actually, I was referring to a side-by-side of Frank Davis next to the baby pic. The resemblance is even more striking. The comparison to Franks son is not as striking as next to Frank in his late fifties.
I went through the pages and a lot was blacked out. The Revolution pages at the end were in another language. Thanks.
OH my he looks very much like Obama
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