Posted on 01/22/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by iontheball
The complexity of arranging an “accident” with the aircraft immediately after take off that was a survivable crash and then arrange the subsequent murder in the water is tin foil hat nuts. This would involve to many people with subsequent chances of failure or worse.
I wish to hell that Fuddy were alive today. I would look forward to her testimony in court after Obama is gone. She is dead and it is not at the hand of Obama but the hand of fate.
ps
The pilot of the aircraft did a superb job after the engine failed.
Agreed.
There might not be any foul play.
Or perhaps there was foul play and the crash was coincidental.
Another possibility is that the plane could have been sabotaged. Fuddy was visiting the island because there was a dispute among the islanders.
The plot thickens some more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?page=90#90
and onwards
Stinky.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?page=197#197
http://www.subud-sica.org/index.php?hkat=7&ukat=24
My road to active interest in interreligious matters was less direct. As an assistant professor of English at the University of Hawai`i at Manoa and, for a year, as intercultural activities officer at the adjoining East-West Center, I was tapped by the Lutheran campus pastor to serve on the University’s interfaith council as a faculty member representing “Team Lutheran.” Then, as assistant director of the University’s experimental School of the Humanities, “New College,” I co-taught an interfaith freshman seminar called “Gods and Men.” By this time I had already been reading widely in the world’s great religions and could spout technical terminology and explain some of the main concepts of Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism as well as Judaism and Christianity. I also liked listening to Hindu and Christian classical music...
M. Subud and Stanley Ann both had straight hair. Theory doesn’t fly!
Re Madeline working as a VP at bank. Her father died in October 1968. He was not just a bookkeeper but wrote mineral right leases for property in OK and Kansas. It was customary to recieve .01 of one percent of the wells production according to freepers family who did the same type of work
In Dec 1971 was the family reunion and probably the final distribution of his estate (all hidden from public view). After that time Maddy became 0 legal guardian , VP of the bank-head of the trust dept , moved to a penthouse apartment and enrolled 0 in private school
O is still receiving income from trust in her name Aka family trust. —according to schedule E of his taxes
Around here the trust officers of the banks are often related to the wealthiest depositors in the bank. ;-)
Isn’t is possible that whoever decided Fuddy was going to depart this mortal coil, could have had her ingest something prior to that flight? I know, too complicated right?!
It just seems rather unusual that she would happen to be the only casualty of this crash. With the sickening feeling I’ve had since barry showed up on the scene, I can’t in good conscience put anything past him, or rather, his handlers.
Axelrod has to be one of the scummiest guys I’ve ever laid eyes on. And Val J is downright creepy!
The freaks who are running all this behind the scenes, are not normal in any sense and I have to believe that to them, whatever it takes is what will be done.
“I don’t know what the real beliefs of Subud are, as compared to what they make public, but it looks like yet another cult with only the top, inner members knowing what it is really about.”
And you wd be correct.
Mainstream Christians consider Subud a dangerous cult, quite possibly a demonic one:
‘Central to Subud practice is the latihan - an occult activity like transcendental meditation which according to Dr Stephen Urlich, a Christchurch scientist who wrote an article published in a journal of the American Psychological Association, involves “uninhibited weeping, shouting, writhing, moaning and speaking in tongues” and that “Laughing, jumping and dancing can occur”. A Christian perspective is that this activity involves channeling demons that masqerade as either angels of light or the Holy Spirit to reveal supposed truth to the Subud member. Nasty. Subud has been known to practice strong relationship control, and in a 1964 study cited by Dr Urlich, 24 cases linked Subud to “schizophrenic episodes requiring hospitalisation”.’
more
http://www.cults.co.nz/s.php
http://www.fresh-hope.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25716
Make sure you read all the comments.
ping fo layta.
2nd link. Guy eventually becomes Roman Catholic. Does he have a relationship with the priest that gave Fuddy last rites?
I wonder why Fuddy’s priest didn’t discourage her involvement in Subud. She doesn’t appear to have kept her cult activities a secret.
Subud members call their 'trips' latihan
You may have heard of its western equivalent, out of body experience or astral travel
Interesting. Thanks.
To answer my own question, perhaps Fuddy’s priest did discourage her from Subud. She may have defied him. Not enough info to know.
The Latihan of Subud, Dissociation and the Neurology of Spiritual Experience
http://www.subudvision.org/hb/The%20Latihan%20of%20Subud.htm
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