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The strange death of Hawaii’s Department of Health Director, Loretta Fuddy!
You Tube ^ | January 18, 2014 | PPSimmons

Posted on 01/22/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by iontheball

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To: Brown Deer
This Eva Bartok connection needs more attention, her movements seem to co-incide with those of someone else:

The story was noticed by a man named John Starr Cooke. Mr. Cooke was born to wealthy parents in Hawaii and was really into the Ouija board mess. He even married his wife because the Ouija board "told him to". He took such an interest in Subud that he financed Pak Subuh to come to the U.S. to try and gain more members to the cult. Eva Bartok and her daughter Deana moved to Jakarta to become more involved with the cult. They lived there from 1967 to 1971, when they moved back to the states and Eva opened a school in Hawaii and taught Subuh Philosophy."

Funny folk, some of those Hungarians. Too much tokay and gypsy music, very impressionable and quite superstitious.

1,341 posted on 02/11/2014 2:26:45 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

Ah, it is all clear now.

Another rabbit hole with a dead end and I had no idea who EAD was in the first place.


1,342 posted on 02/11/2014 3:01:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

There was nothing to know, that EAD rubbish was started by Martha Trowbridge, who tried to turn her into Stanley Ann Dunham. That was after she tried the same stupid mind-bending trick with the wife of one of the Three Stooges. Aint it funny how garbage sticks to the wall and simple facts slide straight off?


1,343 posted on 02/11/2014 3:10:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: little jeremiah
THE MYSTICAL WORLD OF JAVA

REPRODUCED HERE

The author, MAS PRIO HARTONO, was mentioned as a houseguest of the professor Feldman from the University of Manoa, Hawaii.

That led me to the flickr images of Subud members in CA in 1968:

IMAGES LINK

1,344 posted on 02/11/2014 3:34:36 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: little jeremiah

Subud actress:

Osanna Phyllis Love Gooding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZn2U3VHh0U

Start at 7 minute mark.

cont.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4paB55nwrIY

“...had to see Bakpak...”

“...that wonderful room where the women stayed ... stayed for ... weeks”

cont.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK-3x8OrwEQ

3:00 ...mentioned it, (Subud), the meaning to the French Institute ... Richmonds(sp) ... came, been members ever since...


1,345 posted on 02/11/2014 3:40:48 PM PST by maggief
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To: Fred Nerks

I was wondering if “Martha Trowbridge” was somehow involved...


1,346 posted on 02/11/2014 3:47:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: maggief

Thank you.

Weird how Subud was unknown to (any?) people here, even the most intrepid researchers, and now it’s...everywhere. An insidious Moslem/commie trojan horse for haoles, apparently.


1,347 posted on 02/11/2014 3:48:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; Brown Deer
Weird how Subud was unknown to (any?) people here, even the most intrepid researchers, and now it’s...everywhere. An insidious Moslem/commie trojan horse for haoles, apparently.

And funny how it took the belly landing of a Cessna in the ocean off a little island of Hawaii and the death of the Director of Health of Hawaii to uncover it...thanks to the letter Brown Deer found announcing the death of Deliana...and if Corsi hadn't put the man's image on a facebook page, the world would still be unaware. It's just a little unfortunate that Corsi went along with that short freeper comment 'that looks like zero' because really, there's no resemblance, once you study more images of the man; he's so typically Indonesian, and zero would have needed a head transplant to look anything like him.

1,348 posted on 02/11/2014 4:03:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: little jeremiah
I was wondering if “Martha Trowbridge” was somehow involved...

GOOGLE

The above Google Images page might jog your memory

From the pages of The Terrible Truth:

Which blog btw, you need to pay to read iirc, and a certificate of insanity...

1,349 posted on 02/11/2014 4:34:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

“Trowbridge” is like a scientific experiment to measure peoples’ gullibility.


1,350 posted on 02/11/2014 7:04:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks
Prio Hartono, the man Feldman refers to as a Subud houseguest in Hawaii, was one of Bapak's secretaries.

A Life in Subud, page 72

1,351 posted on 02/11/2014 9:25:43 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76

Popped up with
Document does not exist on this server
Got a different link?


1,352 posted on 02/11/2014 10:19:51 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

The correct link is

www.undiscoveredworldspress.com/lifestwo.pdf


1,353 posted on 02/11/2014 10:39:51 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76

Now that I’m looking there’s more info

http://www.undiscoveredworldspress.com/lifesubud.html


1,354 posted on 02/11/2014 10:46:06 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: little jeremiah
...“Trowbridge” is like a scientific experiment to measure peoples’ gullibility.

BUT...there are people who are signing up and PAYING her to read it! Mind you, like a blind squirrel, she did find the photo of what looks like Stanley Ann Dunham on page 18 of Muhammad Speaks at an event in February 1962, and she was holding a coloured child of about six months of age. So if you can wade through a mountain of manure, like the little boy said, there's bound to be pony in there somewhere.

1,355 posted on 02/12/2014 3:25:18 AM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: maggief

Re. post #397:

Bapak was given the name Soekarno (Sukarno) by his grandfather. ... After Bapak’s name was changed to Muhammad- Subuh

http://subudstories.info/bapak/bapak-story.html

Bapak was given the name Soekarno by his grandfather. But with that name Bapak was always ill, and therefore his name was soon changed to another name, Muhammad-Subuh, to correspond with the time of Bapak’s birth which was at subuh (dawn). After Bapak’s name was changed to Muhammad-Subuh he was always healthy and seldom fell ill.

Bapak’s father was called Chasidi. During his lifetime he worked as an officer of a railway company and after he retired he worked on his own farm as a farmer. Bapak’s late father was a descendant (grandson) of Kiaji Muhammad Abubakar, or, originally, Pangeran (meaning “prince”) Sajid Muhammad Abubakar. It was told that he came from Jogjakarta, in Central Java.

Bapak’s mother’s name is Siti Kursinah. She is a descendant of Pangeran (Prince) Purbokusumo, a descendant of Sunan Kalijogo of Kadilangu Demak.

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http://www.subudvision.org/mr/Subud%20at%20crossroads.htm

Subud = priyayi?
For scholars Subud is considered priyayi. In his dissertation: “Susila Budhi Dharma”(1974) Dr.P.P.Sitompul con- siders Bapak a typical guru of the priyayi type. To this group belong the descendants of the aristocracy of the Javanese courts of Yogyakarta and Surakarta, who the Dutch won over to become members of the appointive civil service in colonial times. Nowadays they constitute the intelligentsia of Java. They have their roots in the Hindu-Javanese courts of pre- colonial times. A noble and pure character is attributed to them. They were the bearers of the mystic court-traditions taught to them by highly revered guru’s. Priyayi conserved and cultivated the art of dance, drama, music and poetry.
In Javanese mysticism one learns that it is good to honour one’s superiors...Justice and well-being are expected to flow from above, to originate from a Bapak who in his turn derives his power for protection from a higher Bapak, etc., until one reaches the realm of supernature and the leader “by the grace of God”.”,notes Prof.N.Mulder (p.42) and adds: “Every guru invariably stresses the originality of his revelation or intuitive insights while rejecting knowledge from books or the influence of tradition.(p.26)
According to Prof. van der Kroef Subud is a continuation of, or a new elaboration on “traditional mystical patterns emanating from the Javanese courts and propagated largely but not exclusively by the aristocracy”. The Raden Mas title of Bapak refers to this descent. According to Bapak his mother was a descendant of Prince Purbokusumo, who in turn descended from Sunan (=king) Kalidjogovan(also called Kalidjaga). The latter Bapak credits with having given the ancient Wayang play its present form. Before it was part of the Javanese ancestor- worship. The shadow figures represent the spirits of the dead. Subsequently the Hindu epics Mahabharta and Ramayana were introduced and integrated in Wayang performances.


1,356 posted on 02/12/2014 7:04:23 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

From the article: ....” In Javanese mysticism one learns that it is good to honour one’s superiors...Justice and well-being are expected to flow from above,to originate from a Bapak who in his turn derives his power for protection from a higher Bapak,etc.,until one reaches the realm of supernature and the leader “by the grace of God”.”,”

Recipe for a controlling personality, and a means by which to hide under the guise of ‘good’.


1,357 posted on 02/12/2014 8:09:45 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Or Allah ???? As in praise be to


1,358 posted on 02/12/2014 8:47:29 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

#1334 post by maggief has this: (@ a Ms Horthy funeral; she was heavily involved with the group)

“... Henry in front of the grave told us that he would say one of Hartati’s favourite prayers and the “alfatiya” was said by all those knowing it. It created a very beautiful Subud feeling to this special ceremony in total accordance with a religious ceremony. ...”

The “alfatiya” is a passage from the Koran.

This group is Islam in sheep’s clothing, repackaged for western consumption


1,359 posted on 02/12/2014 9:28:22 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: maggief

Courtesy ping to above post. Thanks for finding that info about Ms Horthy funeral


1,360 posted on 02/12/2014 9:29:34 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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