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The Terrible Truth About Abraham Lincoln and the Confederate War
Snap Out of it, America! ^ | 1/20/14 | Michael Hutcheson

Posted on 01/20/2014 1:42:16 PM PST by mhutcheson

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To: anton
Yea, we know how well the yankees have handled things in D.C.

Sons of Confederate Veterans, Camp Grimes Co. Greys. Texas

221 posted on 01/20/2014 6:29:05 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: ought-six

Oh, sorry. Did I use “sarcasm”wrong?


222 posted on 01/20/2014 6:35:19 PM PST by anton
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To: mhutcheson

Very good article thanks for posting.


223 posted on 01/20/2014 6:38:12 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Tucker39
Let me get you started on your journey of enlightenment;

Maryland legislature arrested link.

224 posted on 01/20/2014 6:38:36 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tucker39
Suspending the Great Writ Link

On April 27, 1861, President Lincoln, fearful that Southern troops might overtake the capital, suspended the writ of habeas corpus and declared martial law in Maryland. Shortly afterward, Union soldiers captured John Merryman, a cavalryman who had burned bridges and destroyed telegraph lines. Merryman challenged his military detention. On May 26, 1861, Chief Justice Roger Taney, sitting circuit, ruled that Lincoln had acted unconstitutionally — only Congress could suspend the Great Writ. Lincoln ignored the order and continued to seize and hold adversaries without a hearing. He did likewise in other states, such as Missouri. However, once order had been established in a county, Lincoln was inclined to release most of the prisoners on the condition that they pledge loyalty to the Union. The New York Tribune, a newspaper hostile to Lincoln, rejoiced: “the reign of lawless despotism has ended.” Of course, the practice of suspending the writ occurred again in 1862 and 1863. Insofar as all constitutional rights were suspended in such instances, all First Amendment rights were likewise suspended.

225 posted on 01/20/2014 6:43:13 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Deb

“FREE MOJO!!!!!!!”

???


226 posted on 01/20/2014 6:43:50 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Tucker39
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

Abe Lincoln -- Racist and Hypocrite i.e. Typical 19th century politician.

He was against freeing the slaves before he was for it.

227 posted on 01/20/2014 6:49:06 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tucker39
If all earthly power were given to me [...] my first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia,—to their own native land. But a moment’s reflection would convince me that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible."

Abe Lincoln - The "Great Emancipator" LOL

228 posted on 01/20/2014 6:52:46 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tucker39

Major-General John A. Drx,

Commanding at New York:

Whereas there has been wickedly and traitorously printed and published this morning in the New York World and New York Journal of Commerce, newspapers printed and published in the city of New York, a false and spurious proclamation purporting to be signed by the President and to be countersigned by the Secretary of State, which publication is of a treasonable nature, designed to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States and to the rebels now at war against the Government and their aiders and abettors, you are therefore hereby commanded forthwith to arrest and imprison in any fort or military prison in your command the editors, proprietors, and publishers of the aforesaid newspapers, and all such persons as, after public notice has been given of the falsehood of said publication, print and publish the same with intent to give aid and comfort to the enemy; and you will hold the persons so arrested in close custody until they can be brought to trial before a military commission for their offense. You will also take possession by military force of the printing establishments of the New York World and Journal of Commerce, and hold the same until further orders, and prohibit any further publication therefrom.

A. LINCOLN.


229 posted on 01/20/2014 6:56:58 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SkyDancer

“If it was going to be a goner in the South why did the South hold on to segregation?”

Ask the North that question, too.


230 posted on 01/20/2014 7:12:26 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: rockrr

“Jim Crow laws were uniquely southern. The north did have black codes that bore some similarity.”

“similarity”? weasel words form a weasel. I guess the black riots in New York City at the time were just “similarities” to something else.


231 posted on 01/20/2014 7:13:29 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CodeToad
Yea, I was trying to say it without descending to your level LOL.

The differences between the Black Codes (1800-1866) - which by the way were a part of life both north and south - were 1. method of inception, 2. degree of severity, and 3. degree of participation.

The Black Codes were ways that whites dealt with blacks. They weren't pretty and they weren't fair but they weren't generally cruel. As I said, they were incorporated in communities both north and south - but far more pervasive in the south.

Jim Crow laws came as a result or a reaction to the imposition of reconstruction. One of the very first things southerners did when they regained control of their state legislatures was to pass laws severely restricting the civil rights of blacks. They were exclusive to the south. They were universally applied throughout the south. They affected virtually every part of life. Some of the Jim Crow laws that differed from Black Code laws included:

With the KKK serving as the enforcement arm of southern democrats blacks quickly learned that emancipation wasn't all it was cracked up to be.
232 posted on 01/20/2014 8:13:43 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Try reading the Constitution before trying to make it suit your misperception. The States and the People had and have the right to un-join the USA when the government so grossly violates the Constitution.


233 posted on 01/20/2014 8:59:34 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

Maybe they do and maybe they don’t but they certainly didn’t the way the slavocracy did it.


234 posted on 01/20/2014 9:03:30 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Windflier

Really? The only person I see offended is you.There’s more than enough people on these Civil War threads who fit that description.


235 posted on 01/20/2014 9:05:55 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: rockrr

Reading your other post 232 gives question to your playing loose with facts or do you seriously think when Jim VCrow laws were passed there were movie theaters, busses or phone booths?

Reconstruction and putting ex-slaves in positions of authority not only caused great stress, but significant wreckage of State and local government. The ex-slaves and yankee carpetbaggers brought on the KKK, not the poor Southerners who were simply interested in surviving the after war punishment at the hands of the Union.


236 posted on 01/20/2014 9:35:10 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt
Jim Crow laws lasted until the 1950's.

The ex-slaves and yankee carpetbaggers brought on the KKK, not the poor Southerners who were simply interested in surviving the after war punishment at the hands of the Union.

Baloney. Y'all brought it on yourselves.

237 posted on 01/20/2014 9:38:55 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa
Really? The only person I see offended is you.

What a juvenile deflection.

Do you honestly believe that all of the Southern Freepers here are perfectly cool with you calling them, "Dixiecrats in sheep's clothing"?

It's a despicable insult. You ought to man up and take it back.

238 posted on 01/20/2014 11:23:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Lincoln is my 7th cousin. You are right, it was something my great-great grandma talked about when telling me about my family history on her branch.

Debbi


239 posted on 01/20/2014 11:30:09 PM PST by hearthwench (Mom, NaNa, always ornery)
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To: mhutcheson

BFL


240 posted on 01/21/2014 4:33:32 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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